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> cryptome Digest Wed, 21 Jan 2015        Volume: 04  Issue: 015
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> In This Issue:
>                 [cryptome] Torture & Rendition: A Personal Handwritten View
>                 [cryptome] Cryptome Archive on Amazon
>                 [cryptome] Re: Cryptome Archive on Amazon
>                 [cryptome] Re: Wanna Be a Spy Wanna Be?: Take the MI5
>                 [cryptome] Re: cryptome Digest V4 #11
>                 [cryptome] Re: cryptome Digest V4 #11
>                 [cryptome] Press release: Barrett Brown will finally be
> sent
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> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:10:07 +0000
> From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cryptome] Torture & Rendition: A Personal Handwritten View by a
> Victi
>
> see url: http://cryptome.org/2015/01/slahi-torture-guardian-15-0120.pdf
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> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:15:21 +0000
> From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cryptome] Cryptome Archive on Amazon
>
> see url: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SI0XTT8
>
> Unredacted...:-)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:17:20 +0000
> From: Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cryptome] Re: Cryptome Archive on Amazon
>
> nice!
> On 21/01/2015 13:15, doug wrote:
> > see url: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SI0XTT8
> >
> > Unredacted...:-)
> >
> >
> --
> *_PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION _*
>
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/when-time-comes-we-need-be-ready-fight-tpps-secret-anti-user-agenda
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> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:13:41 -0800
> Subject: [cryptome] Re: Wanna Be a Spy Wanna Be?: Take the MI5
> From: Michael Shelton <iao.ms88@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Dear Sirs,
>   I looked at the test but did not take it yet.
>    When I was still in school(UCD),I took
> a course in experimental psych.Where we took tons of various tests,and
> learned to design testing for certain behaviours or ideologies of
> interest,without it being apparent what we are looking for.
>    I have a feeling that this one from MI5
> is like that,what they deduce from it isn't
> reading and comprehension.Devious test
> design is an art and a science(sounds familiar,eh?)and should be carefully
> constructed in order to leave the cadets
> totally in the dark as to the intent.
>     You can always tell this from a test
> that does not have a hidden agenda........
> Expect to win!
> Michael Shelton, I.A.O.
> On 20 Jan 2015 04:24, "doug" <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Ryan,
> > Congratulations...:-) .
> >
> > I think you will find that it is one of those open-ended sort of
> > exercises, where there are a number of different outcomes, dependent upon
> > what you look at, examine, understand, assimilate, categorise and then
> > memorise, before you come out with the conclusions.  The scenario also
> > panders to ones prejudices...what would you do if caught up in a
> particular
> > situation where thinking on your feet is needed, and where long a well as
> > short term consequences have to be considered.
> >
> >  That is why they use a multiple choice question format. The problem with
> > multiple choice format exams, is that though they are easy to mark, they
> > don't have the flexibility of allowing for the development of fluid
> > scenarios.  The CHIS needs to be looked at quite carefully for example.
> > Most people go for the names and dates of births and car numbers and
> types
> > of cars, before they really knuckle down to the wheres and whens. This is
> > because we are brought up with the Hollywood version of the spy hero who
> > has an infallible memory, is athletic, well-trained in the use of gizmos
> > and is one of the good guys who gets rid of the bad guys. There is an
> > element of truth in that outlook (or is it instilled set of prejudices)
> but
> > it is only an element.
> >
> >  There is also a time factor on it.   It needs to be looked at a number
> of
> > times, so that the examinee gets a better understanding of what is being
> > asked, what to look for, how to put it together. A marriage of induction
> > and deduction techniques. They do allow examinees the opportunity to take
> > it a number of times, until the time is used up.
> >
> > Now, what do you think...and our colleagues think, was the purpose of the
> > exercise?
> > ATB
> > Dougie.
> >
> >
> > On 20/01/15 07:28, Ryan Carboni wrote:
> >
> >> I got five.
> >>
> >> I suspect it's impossible to get eight out of eight, or they'd have to
> >> deal with people demanding high pay since they scored so high.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 23:23:32 +0000
> Subject: [cryptome] Re: cryptome Digest V4 #11
> From: Thomas Wright <thomasphilipwright@xxxxxxxxx>
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> > cryptome Digest Sat, 17 Jan 2015        Volume: 04  Issue: 011
> >
> > In This Issue:
> >                 [cryptome] Re: Power Point: The Art of Deception
> >                 [cryptome] The Art of Deception 2: Or how a Democracy
> uses
> > B
> >                 [cryptome] Art of Deception 2: The weel laid plans o'
> mice
> > a
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 12:50:03 +0000
> > From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [cryptome] Re: Power Point: The Art of Deception
> >
> > Hi Aftermath,
> > No...he died of cancer of the throat...I was being flippant...:-) .  He
> > requested LSD when he knew he was close to death.
> >    Erickson and Huxley spent a lot of time together and conducted some
> > experiments on hypnotic techniques and using various hallucinatory drugs
> > to see what effects they had on the mind and body.  Unfortunately the
> > house in which the results were stored got burnt down, so they were
> > never recorded for posterity.
> >
> >   Just think, if it hadn't been for the CIA producing all those
> > hallucinatory drugs on a massive scale, so cheapening the product that
> > the masses could afford to produce and consume it efficiently and at low
> > cost, then we might not have had all that psychedelic hippie culture and
> > flower power in the 1960's...All those Chelsea parties and fancy dress
> > in NY and across the pond in London, all that poetry and
> > music...and...dare I mention The Beatles and Alan Ginsberg...Where would
> > we be now...:-) .
> >
> >   America might have won the Vietnam War, but for the grunts smoking all
> > that spliff and other drugs which the Vietcong sold them, so that they
> > could buy arms to defend themselves. Eventually, the grunts started
> > fragging their officers who wanted them to go to war, they had become so
> > disillusioned...or stoned. And the US of A would never have developed
> > its major drug problem, if it hadn't been for some bright spark at the
> > CIA realising that there was a way of making a lot of money by filling
> > up those empty planes with cocaine and heroin and all sorts of other
> > concoctions; which belonged to CIA front companies, returning to
> > America, after emptying their holds of arms etc for the secret war in
> > Cambodia.
> >
> > I am of course familiar with NLP, having studied and researched it at
> > different times over the years. I must say it isn't my cup of tea and
> > its connection with Erickson techniques, is rather tendentious and
> > tenuous.   Various attributions as to who was connected to it were made
> > by the two protagonists, come advocates, Bandler and Grinder which were
> > found to have no substance.  They fought amongst themselves in the
> > 1980s.  Along came a plethora of "so-called" self-improvement books, in
> > the 1980's and 90's making exaggerated and unfounded claims and turned
> > much of the learning tool game into snake oil, like much of digital
> > security is today. However, it does have its good points, and, as it
> > worked for you, what more can one ask...:-) .
> >
> > Tx also for the further info on tor etc.   I will keep it in mind and if
> > I see any use for it in the future, maybe I will get round to using
> > it... At least the information is "out there" on the mailing list, if
> > any aspiring candidates who need anonymity because of the job they do in
> > struggling for human rights or whistleblowing around the world, they can
> > make use of it...then at least they will be able to find it.
> >
> > Yup...there are many aspects to communications, not just computers and
> > the internet, but the actions and interactions between human beings,
> > their minds and bodies and their computers...and other human beings.
> > Which is, of course, what communications...and cryptome...is all
> > about...:-)
> > ATB
> > Dougie.
> >
> > On 16/01/15 12:29, Aftermath wrote:
> > > I dont think he actually died from the LSD; 100 micrograms injected IM
> > > wont kill you I dont believe.. he just wanted to end on a high note.
> > >
> > > I am not too familiar with Eriksons work, but if it is anything like
> > > NLP (neuro linguistic programming) then its going to be powerful
> > > stuff.  will check out his work..
> > >
> > > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming
> > >
> > > On Friday, January 16, 2015, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx');>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hi Shaun,
> > >
> > >     Have you ever had a look at Aldous Huxley and his "Doors of
> > >     Perception" ?
> > >
> > >     see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doors_of_Perception
> > >
> > >     Life story...he died from an overdose of LSD and laryngal cancer
> > >     on the day of Kennedy's assassination.
> > >     see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
> > >
> > >      He was the first person to put on a television programme
> > >     organised by the BBC on the use  and effects of illegal drugs.
> > >     Not a lot of people have managed to do that since.  They had laws
> > >     against it in them days too, still, anyfink goes in the name of
> > >     science:-) ...and I am still trying to work out how he managed
> > >     it...and got away with it...perhaps it was the respect for his
> > >     father as one of the worlds leading scientists of his time...:-)
> > >     .  Perhaps he hoodwinked all the judges, law enforcers and
> > >     politicians and board of guvnors at the same time...or they were
> > >     all on LSD.  It took me, as a naive young Scot, a long time to
> > >     realise that LSD was not only a unit of currency, prevalent at the
> > >     time.
> > >
> > >     Even better than that....did you ever watch "The Manchurian
> > >     Candidate"  a fictional film based on experiments carried out by
> > >     some leading western democracy or other, it might have been the
> > >     Soviet Union...on whether a human being could be psychologically
> > >     programmed with a sub-conscious remit to commit an assassination
> > >     on some leading person and then forget all about it afterwards? It
> > >     was in the era when the science of "brainwashing" of US prisoners
> > >     of war in North Korea came to the fore, and some bright spark
> > >     thought that one could use Milton Erickson techniques mixed up
> > >     with a few illicit drugs to make the assassin more suggestible,
> > >     and then a post hypnotic suggestion to make him forget he had done
> > >     it.  Spent quite a few bob on it I understand, and it came up with
> > >     a lot of unintended consequences...c'est la vie...:-)
> > >
> > >     There is a rumour that Frank Sinatra had the film pulled after the
> > >     assassination of President John Kennedy...
> > >
> > >     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
> > >
> > >
> > >     Actually, used properly hypnosis can be of great help to patients
> > >     who have suffered some kind of mental and physical trauma.  Many
> > >     patients, particularly those who suffer from shock or loss of
> > >     blood, find that their recall of past immediate events cannot be
> > >     reclaimed due to loss of memory.  Depending on the state and depth
> > >     of shock it is sometimes possible to recover that memory, and many
> > >     patients over a period of time recover full recall.
> > >
> > >     Erickson did a  lot of experimental work using hypnotic
> > >     techniques, he was a past master at it.  He called his
> > >     experiments, "pantomimes"...funny eh...:-) .  Because he was
> > >     colour blind, and could only see purple, he did a lot of
> > >     experiments on colour perceptions. He also used time distortion,
> > >     and amnesia and self production techniques of pain killing
> > >     hormones, to help people who were suffering a lot of pain from
> > >     terminal cancer.  It was the mastery of such skills that
> > >     apparently got the CIA interested....
> > >     see url:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson
> > >
> > >     ATB
> > >     Dougie.
> > >     //
> > >
> > >     On 15/01/15 22:16, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
> > >>     next step,  hire a hypnotist to change the juries viewpoint
> > >>     subliminally  a la Milton Erickson ( of course he only used
> > >>     hypnosis for therapeutic treatment of course)
> > >>     OH wait they already hire forensic hypnotists to "elicit key
> > >>     details" from a traumatized witness. The mind indeed works in
> > >>     strange ways when trying to determine what one saw or did not see
> > >>     at a scene of crime.
> > >>     On 15/01/2015 21:54, doug wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> http://www.wired.com/2014/12/prosecutors-powerpoint-presentations/
> > >>>
> > >>>     The use of the subconscious in the Art of Deception....
> > >>>
> > >>>     Guilty as charged your Honour...The power of Power Point...I
> > >>>     remember it well...:-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>     Enjoy.
> > >>>
> > >>>     ATB Dougie.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>     --
> > >>     *_PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION _*
> > >>
> >
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/when-time-comes-we-need-be-ready-fight-tpps-secret-anti-user-agenda
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:21:01 +0000
> > From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [cryptome] The Art of Deception 2: Or how a Democracy uses
> > Blackmail t
> >
> > see
> > url:
> http://cryptome.org/2015/01/sterling-exhibits-105-108-nyt-15-0117.pdf
> >
> > James Risen, see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Risen
> >
> > Shows the tactics and strategy used by those "in the know" legally and
> > those who are "in the know" illegally...Though which one is which is
> > very much in doubt, but in the interests of free speech and free
> > information, democracy and exposing government wrong doing which is in
> > denial. I think I would give the reporter the benefit of the doubt.  The
> > story did, of course, did get published in the end. That's the trouble
> > with classified information...it is just so leaky.  What was it that
> > they were trying to hide, the fact that the Iranians had already sussed
> > it out, or genuinely to hide a deception and waste of taxpayers money
> > from the American people?
> >
> > The funniest part about this story is what isn't said...which is, I
> > think, is that the Iranians already knew that it was a scam and played
> > along with it, stretched it out for all of its worth to see where it
> > led; though I can't for the life of me remember where and when I read
> > that.  Good enough story for a Le Carre novel...in my view...:-)
> > Enjoy,
> > ATB
> > Dougie.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:35:06 +0000
> > From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [cryptome] Art of Deception 2: The weel laid plans o' mice and
> > men...g
> >
> > see url: http://cryptome.org/2015/01/sterling-cia-exhibits.pdf
> > for full documentation on CIA being deceived by Iran.
> >
> > As you can see my Langauge is changing...this is due to a genetic
> > disturbance induced by the Anniversary of the Death of Robert Burns and
> > the thocht of all that whisky and haggis which I will be eating over the
> > next week or two at all those Burns Suppers I will attend.   The
> > celebration of this great event happens on Sunday 25th of January.
> >
> > I dedicate this posting to the CIA and all the other world security and
> > intelligence services...Lang may yer lums reek.
> >
> > To a Mouse
> >
> > /On Turning Her Up in Her Nest with the Plough,
> > November, 1785/
> >
> > Wee, sleekit, cowrin, tim'rous/beastie/,
> > O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
> > Thou need na start awa sae hasty not,
> >            Wi' bickering brattle!
> > I wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
> >           Wi' murdering/pattle/!
> >
> > I'm truly sorry Man's dominion
> > Has broken Nature's social union,
> > An' justifies that ill opinion
> >           Which makes thee startle
> > At me, thy poor, earth-born companion
> >           An'/fellow-mortal/!
> >
> > I doubt na, whyles, but thou may/thieve/;
> > What then? poor beastie, thou maun live!
> > A/daimen-icker/  in a/thrave/
> >           'S a sma' requet;
> > I'll get a blessin wi' the lave,
> >           An' never miss't!
> >
> > Thy wee-bit/housie/, too, in ruin!
> > Its silly wa's the win's are strewin!
> > An' naething, now, to big a new ane,
> >           O' foggage green!
> > An' bleak/December's win's/  ensuing,
> >           Baith snell an' keen!
> >
> > Thou saw the fields laid bare an' waste,
> > An' weary/Winter/  comin fast,
> > An' cozie here, beneath the blast,
> >           Thou thought to dwell,
> > Till crash! the cruel/coulter/  past
> >           Out thro' thy cell.
> >
> > That wee bit heap o' leaves and stibble,
> > Has cost thee monie a weary nibble!
> > Now thou's turned out, for a' thy trouble,
> >           But house or hald,
> > To thole the Winter's/sleety dribble/,
> >           An'/cranreuch/  cauld!
> >
> > But Mousie, thou art no thy lane,
> > In proving/foresight/  may be in vain:
> > The best-laid schemes o'/Mice/  an'/Men/
> >           Gang aft agley,
> > An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
> >           For promis'd joy!
> >
> > Still thou are blest, compared wi' me!
> > The/present/  only toucheth thee:
> > But Och! I/backward/  cast my e'e,
> >           On prospects drear!
> > An'/forward/, tho' I cannot/see/,
> >           I/guess/  an'/fear/!
> >
> > Robert Burns
> >
> > Enjoy,
> > ATB
> > Dougie.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of cryptome Digest V4 #11
> > *****************************
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Shelley <shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cryptome] Re: cryptome Digest V4 #11
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:31:16 -0800
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> > > ------------------------------------
> > > cryptome Digest Sat, 17 Jan 2015        Volume: 04  Issue: 011
> > >
> > > In This Issue:
> > >                 [cryptome] Re: Power Point: The Art of Deception
> > >                 [cryptome] The Art of Deception 2: Or how a Democracy
> uses
> > > B
> > >                 [cryptome] Art of Deception 2: The weel laid plans o'
> mice
> > > a
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 12:50:03 +0000
> > > From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [cryptome] Re: Power Point: The Art of Deception
> > >
> > > Hi Aftermath,
> > > No...he died of cancer of the throat...I was being flippant...:-) .  He
> > > requested LSD when he knew he was close to death.
> > >    Erickson and Huxley spent a lot of time together and conducted some
> > > experiments on hypnotic techniques and using various hallucinatory
> drugs
> > > to see what effects they had on the mind and body.  Unfortunately the
> > > house in which the results were stored got burnt down, so they were
> > > never recorded for posterity.
> > >
> > >   Just think, if it hadn't been for the CIA producing all those
> > > hallucinatory drugs on a massive scale, so cheapening the product that
> > > the masses could afford to produce and consume it efficiently and at
> low
> > > cost, then we might not have had all that psychedelic hippie culture
> and
> > > flower power in the 1960's...All those Chelsea parties and fancy dress
> > > in NY and across the pond in London, all that poetry and
> > > music...and...dare I mention The Beatles and Alan Ginsberg...Where
> would
> > > we be now...:-) .
> > >
> > >   America might have won the Vietnam War, but for the grunts smoking
> all
> > > that spliff and other drugs which the Vietcong sold them, so that they
> > > could buy arms to defend themselves. Eventually, the grunts started
> > > fragging their officers who wanted them to go to war, they had become
> so
> > > disillusioned...or stoned. And the US of A would never have developed
> > > its major drug problem, if it hadn't been for some bright spark at the
> > > CIA realising that there was a way of making a lot of money by filling
> > > up those empty planes with cocaine and heroin and all sorts of other
> > > concoctions; which belonged to CIA front companies, returning to
> > > America, after emptying their holds of arms etc for the secret war in
> > > Cambodia.
> > >
> > > I am of course familiar with NLP, having studied and researched it at
> > > different times over the years. I must say it isn't my cup of tea and
> > > its connection with Erickson techniques, is rather tendentious and
> > > tenuous.   Various attributions as to who was connected to it were made
> > > by the two protagonists, come advocates, Bandler and Grinder which were
> > > found to have no substance.  They fought amongst themselves in the
> > > 1980s.  Along came a plethora of "so-called" self-improvement books, in
> > > the 1980's and 90's making exaggerated and unfounded claims and turned
> > > much of the learning tool game into snake oil, like much of digital
> > > security is today. However, it does have its good points, and, as it
> > > worked for you, what more can one ask...:-) .
> > >
> > > Tx also for the further info on tor etc.   I will keep it in mind and
> if
> > > I see any use for it in the future, maybe I will get round to using
> > > it... At least the information is "out there" on the mailing list, if
> > > any aspiring candidates who need anonymity because of the job they do
> in
> > > struggling for human rights or whistleblowing around the world, they
> can
> > > make use of it...then at least they will be able to find it.
> > >
> > > Yup...there are many aspects to communications, not just computers and
> > > the internet, but the actions and interactions between human beings,
> > > their minds and bodies and their computers...and other human beings.
> > > Which is, of course, what communications...and cryptome...is all
> > > about...:-)
> > > ATB
> > > Dougie.
> > >
> > > On 16/01/15 12:29, Aftermath wrote:
> > > > I dont think he actually died from the LSD; 100 micrograms injected
> IM
> > > > wont kill you I dont believe.. he just wanted to end on a high note.
> > > >
> > > > I am not too familiar with Eriksons work, but if it is anything like
> > > > NLP (neuro linguistic programming) then its going to be powerful
> > > > stuff.  will check out his work..
> > > >
> > > > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, January 16, 2015, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx');>>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     Hi Shaun,
> > > >
> > > >     Have you ever had a look at Aldous Huxley and his "Doors of
> > > >     Perception" ?
> > > >
> > > >     see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doors_of_Perception
> > > >
> > > >     Life story...he died from an overdose of LSD and laryngal cancer
> > > >     on the day of Kennedy's assassination.
> > > >     see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
> > > >
> > > >      He was the first person to put on a television programme
> > > >     organised by the BBC on the use  and effects of illegal drugs.
> > > >     Not a lot of people have managed to do that since.  They had laws
> > > >     against it in them days too, still, anyfink goes in the name of
> > > >     science:-) ...and I am still trying to work out how he managed
> > > >     it...and got away with it...perhaps it was the respect for his
> > > >     father as one of the worlds leading scientists of his time...:-)
> > > >     .  Perhaps he hoodwinked all the judges, law enforcers and
> > > >     politicians and board of guvnors at the same time...or they were
> > > >     all on LSD.  It took me, as a naive young Scot, a long time to
> > > >     realise that LSD was not only a unit of currency, prevalent at
> the
> > > >     time.
> > > >
> > > >     Even better than that....did you ever watch "The Manchurian
> > > >     Candidate"  a fictional film based on experiments carried out by
> > > >     some leading western democracy or other, it might have been the
> > > >     Soviet Union...on whether a human being could be psychologically
> > > >     programmed with a sub-conscious remit to commit an assassination
> > > >     on some leading person and then forget all about it afterwards?
> It
> > > >     was in the era when the science of "brainwashing" of US prisoners
> > > >     of war in North Korea came to the fore, and some bright spark
> > > >     thought that one could use Milton Erickson techniques mixed up
> > > >     with a few illicit drugs to make the assassin more suggestible,
> > > >     and then a post hypnotic suggestion to make him forget he had
> done
> > > >     it.  Spent quite a few bob on it I understand, and it came up
> with
> > > >     a lot of unintended consequences...c'est la vie...:-)
> > > >
> > > >     There is a rumour that Frank Sinatra had the film pulled after
> the
> > > >     assassination of President John Kennedy...
> > > >
> > > >     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     Actually, used properly hypnosis can be of great help to patients
> > > >     who have suffered some kind of mental and physical trauma.  Many
> > > >     patients, particularly those who suffer from shock or loss of
> > > >     blood, find that their recall of past immediate events cannot be
> > > >     reclaimed due to loss of memory.  Depending on the state and
> depth
> > > >     of shock it is sometimes possible to recover that memory, and
> many
> > > >     patients over a period of time recover full recall.
> > > >
> > > >     Erickson did a  lot of experimental work using hypnotic
> > > >     techniques, he was a past master at it.  He called his
> > > >     experiments, "pantomimes"...funny eh...:-) .  Because he was
> > > >     colour blind, and could only see purple, he did a lot of
> > > >     experiments on colour perceptions. He also used time distortion,
> > > >     and amnesia and self production techniques of pain killing
> > > >     hormones, to help people who were suffering a lot of pain from
> > > >     terminal cancer.  It was the mastery of such skills that
> > > >     apparently got the CIA interested....
> > > >     see url:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson
> > > >
> > > >     ATB
> > > >     Dougie.
> > > >     //
> > > >
> > > >     On 15/01/15 22:16, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
> > > >>     next step,  hire a hypnotist to change the juries viewpoint
> > > >>     subliminally  a la Milton Erickson ( of course he only used
> > > >>     hypnosis for therapeutic treatment of course)
> > > >>     OH wait they already hire forensic hypnotists to "elicit key
> > > >>     details" from a traumatized witness. The mind indeed works in
> > > >>     strange ways when trying to determine what one saw or did not
> see
> > > >>     at a scene of crime.
> > > >>     On 15/01/2015 21:54, doug wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> http://www.wired.com/2014/12/prosecutors-powerpoint-presentations/
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     The use of the subconscious in the Art of Deception....
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     Guilty as charged your Honour...The power of Power Point...I
> > > >>>     remember it well...:-)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     Enjoy.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     ATB Dougie.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>     --
> > > >>     *_PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION _*
> > > >>
> > >
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/when-time-comes-we-need-be-ready-fight-tpps-secret-anti-user-agenda
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:21:01 +0000
> > > From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [cryptome] The Art of Deception 2: Or how a Democracy uses
> > > Blackmail t
> > >
> > > see
> > > url:
> http://cryptome.org/2015/01/sterling-exhibits-105-108-nyt-15-0117.pdf
> > >
> > > James Risen, see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Risen
> > >
> > > Shows the tactics and strategy used by those "in the know" legally and
> > > those who are "in the know" illegally...Though which one is which is
> > > very much in doubt, but in the interests of free speech and free
> > > information, democracy and exposing government wrong doing which is in
> > > denial. I think I would give the reporter the benefit of the doubt.
> The
> > > story did, of course, did get published in the end. That's the trouble
> > > with classified information...it is just so leaky.  What was it that
> > > they were trying to hide, the fact that the Iranians had already sussed
> > > it out, or genuinely to hide a deception and waste of taxpayers money
> > > from the American people?
> > >
> > > The funniest part about this story is what isn't said...which is, I
> > > think, is that the Iranians already knew that it was a scam and played
> > > along with it, stretched it out for all of its worth to see where it
> > > led; though I can't for the life of me remember where and when I read
> > > that.  Good enough story for a Le Carre novel...in my view...:-)
> > > Enjoy,
> > > ATB
> > > Dougie.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:35:06 +0000
> > > From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [cryptome] Art of Deception 2: The weel laid plans o' mice and
> > > men...g
> > >
> > > see url: http://cryptome.org/2015/01/sterling-cia-exhibits.pdf
> > > for full documentation on CIA being deceived by Iran.
> > >
> > > As you can see my Langauge is changing...this is due to a genetic
> > > disturbance induced by the Anniversary of the Death of Robert Burns and
> > > the thocht of all that whisky and haggis which I will be eating over
> the
> > > next week or two at all those Burns Suppers I will attend.   The
> > > celebration of this great event happens on Sunday 25th of January.
> > >
> > > I dedicate this posting to the CIA and all the other world security and
> > > intelligence services...Lang may yer lums reek.
> > >
> > > To a Mouse
> > >
> > > /On Turning Her Up in Her Nest with the Plough,
> > > November, 1785/
> > >
> > > Wee, sleekit, cowrin, tim'rous/beastie/,
> > > O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
> > > Thou need na start awa sae hasty not,
> > >            Wi' bickering brattle!
> > > I wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
> > >           Wi' murdering/pattle/!
> > >
> > > I'm truly sorry Man's dominion
> > > Has broken Nature's social union,
> > > An' justifies that ill opinion
> > >           Which makes thee startle
> > > At me, thy poor, earth-born companion
> > >           An'/fellow-mortal/!
> > >
> > > I doubt na, whyles, but thou may/thieve/;
> > > What then? poor beastie, thou maun live!
> > > A/daimen-icker/  in a/thrave/
> > >           'S a sma' requet;
> > > I'll get a blessin wi' the lave,
> > >           An' never miss't!
> > >
> > > Thy wee-bit/housie/, too, in ruin!
> > > Its silly wa's the win's are strewin!
> > > An' naething, now, to big a new ane,
> > >           O' foggage green!
> > > An' bleak/December's win's/  ensuing,
> > >           Baith snell an' keen!
> > >
> > > Thou saw the fields laid bare an' waste,
> > > An' weary/Winter/  comin fast,
> > > An' cozie here, beneath the blast,
> > >           Thou thought to dwell,
> > > Till crash! the cruel/coulter/  past
> > >           Out thro' thy cell.
> > >
> > > That wee bit heap o' leaves and stibble,
> > > Has cost thee monie a weary nibble!
> > > Now thou's turned out, for a' thy trouble,
> > >           But house or hald,
> > > To thole the Winter's/sleety dribble/,
> > >           An'/cranreuch/  cauld!
> > >
> > > But Mousie, thou art no thy lane,
> > > In proving/foresight/  may be in vain:
> > > The best-laid schemes o'/Mice/  an'/Men/
> > >           Gang aft agley,
> > > An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
> > >           For promis'd joy!
> > >
> > > Still thou are blest, compared wi' me!
> > > The/present/  only toucheth thee:
> > > But Och! I/backward/  cast my e'e,
> > >           On prospects drear!
> > > An'/forward/, tho' I cannot/see/,
> > >           I/guess/  an'/fear/!
> > >
> > > Robert Burns
> > >
> > > Enjoy,
> > > ATB
> > > Dougie.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > End of cryptome Digest V4 #11
> > > *****************************
> > >
> > >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:39:03 -0500
> From: John Young <jya@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cryptome] Press release: Barrett Brown will finally be sentenced
> tomo
>
>
> http://tumblr.freebarrettbrown.org/post/108769779474/press-release-barrett-brown-will-finally-be
>
>
>
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>
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