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> cryptome Digest Sat, 17 Jan 2015 Volume: 04 Issue: 011
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> [cryptome] Re: Power Point: The Art of Deception
> [cryptome] The Art of Deception 2: Or how a Democracy uses
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> [cryptome] Art of Deception 2: The weel laid plans o' mice
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> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 12:50:03 +0000
> From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cryptome] Re: Power Point: The Art of Deception
>
> Hi Aftermath,
> No...he died of cancer of the throat...I was being flippant...:-) . He
> requested LSD when he knew he was close to death.
> Erickson and Huxley spent a lot of time together and conducted some
> experiments on hypnotic techniques and using various hallucinatory drugs
> to see what effects they had on the mind and body. Unfortunately the
> house in which the results were stored got burnt down, so they were
> never recorded for posterity.
>
> Just think, if it hadn't been for the CIA producing all those
> hallucinatory drugs on a massive scale, so cheapening the product that
> the masses could afford to produce and consume it efficiently and at low
> cost, then we might not have had all that psychedelic hippie culture and
> flower power in the 1960's...All those Chelsea parties and fancy dress
> in NY and across the pond in London, all that poetry and
> music...and...dare I mention The Beatles and Alan Ginsberg...Where would
> we be now...:-) .
>
> America might have won the Vietnam War, but for the grunts smoking all
> that spliff and other drugs which the Vietcong sold them, so that they
> could buy arms to defend themselves. Eventually, the grunts started
> fragging their officers who wanted them to go to war, they had become so
> disillusioned...or stoned. And the US of A would never have developed
> its major drug problem, if it hadn't been for some bright spark at the
> CIA realising that there was a way of making a lot of money by filling
> up those empty planes with cocaine and heroin and all sorts of other
> concoctions; which belonged to CIA front companies, returning to
> America, after emptying their holds of arms etc for the secret war in
> Cambodia.
>
> I am of course familiar with NLP, having studied and researched it at
> different times over the years. I must say it isn't my cup of tea and
> its connection with Erickson techniques, is rather tendentious and
> tenuous. Various attributions as to who was connected to it were made
> by the two protagonists, come advocates, Bandler and Grinder which were
> found to have no substance. They fought amongst themselves in the
> 1980s. Along came a plethora of "so-called" self-improvement books, in
> the 1980's and 90's making exaggerated and unfounded claims and turned
> much of the learning tool game into snake oil, like much of digital
> security is today. However, it does have its good points, and, as it
> worked for you, what more can one ask...:-) .
>
> Tx also for the further info on tor etc. I will keep it in mind and if
> I see any use for it in the future, maybe I will get round to using
> it... At least the information is "out there" on the mailing list, if
> any aspiring candidates who need anonymity because of the job they do in
> struggling for human rights or whistleblowing around the world, they can
> make use of it...then at least they will be able to find it.
>
> Yup...there are many aspects to communications, not just computers and
> the internet, but the actions and interactions between human beings,
> their minds and bodies and their computers...and other human beings.
> Which is, of course, what communications...and cryptome...is all
> about...:-)
> ATB
> Dougie.
>
> On 16/01/15 12:29, Aftermath wrote:
> > I dont think he actually died from the LSD; 100 micrograms injected IM
> > wont kill you I dont believe.. he just wanted to end on a high note.
> >
> > I am not too familiar with Eriksons work, but if it is anything like
> > NLP (neuro linguistic programming) then its going to be powerful
> > stuff. will check out his work..
> >
> > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming
> >
> > On Friday, January 16, 2015, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Shaun,
> >
> > Have you ever had a look at Aldous Huxley and his "Doors of
> > Perception" ?
> >
> > see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doors_of_Perception
> >
> > Life story...he died from an overdose of LSD and laryngal cancer
> > on the day of Kennedy's assassination.
> > see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
> >
> > He was the first person to put on a television programme
> > organised by the BBC on the use and effects of illegal drugs.
> > Not a lot of people have managed to do that since. They had laws
> > against it in them days too, still, anyfink goes in the name of
> > science:-) ...and I am still trying to work out how he managed
> > it...and got away with it...perhaps it was the respect for his
> > father as one of the worlds leading scientists of his time...:-)
> > . Perhaps he hoodwinked all the judges, law enforcers and
> > politicians and board of guvnors at the same time...or they were
> > all on LSD. It took me, as a naive young Scot, a long time to
> > realise that LSD was not only a unit of currency, prevalent at the
> > time.
> >
> > Even better than that....did you ever watch "The Manchurian
> > Candidate" a fictional film based on experiments carried out by
> > some leading western democracy or other, it might have been the
> > Soviet Union...on whether a human being could be psychologically
> > programmed with a sub-conscious remit to commit an assassination
> > on some leading person and then forget all about it afterwards? It
> > was in the era when the science of "brainwashing" of US prisoners
> > of war in North Korea came to the fore, and some bright spark
> > thought that one could use Milton Erickson techniques mixed up
> > with a few illicit drugs to make the assassin more suggestible,
> > and then a post hypnotic suggestion to make him forget he had done
> > it. Spent quite a few bob on it I understand, and it came up with
> > a lot of unintended consequences...c'est la vie...:-)
> >
> > There is a rumour that Frank Sinatra had the film pulled after the
> > assassination of President John Kennedy...
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
> >
> >
> > Actually, used properly hypnosis can be of great help to patients
> > who have suffered some kind of mental and physical trauma. Many
> > patients, particularly those who suffer from shock or loss of
> > blood, find that their recall of past immediate events cannot be
> > reclaimed due to loss of memory. Depending on the state and depth
> > of shock it is sometimes possible to recover that memory, and many
> > patients over a period of time recover full recall.
> >
> > Erickson did a lot of experimental work using hypnotic
> > techniques, he was a past master at it. He called his
> > experiments, "pantomimes"...funny eh...:-) . Because he was
> > colour blind, and could only see purple, he did a lot of
> > experiments on colour perceptions. He also used time distortion,
> > and amnesia and self production techniques of pain killing
> > hormones, to help people who were suffering a lot of pain from
> > terminal cancer. It was the mastery of such skills that
> > apparently got the CIA interested....
> > see url:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson
> >
> > ATB
> > Dougie.
> > //
> >
> > On 15/01/15 22:16, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
> >> next step, hire a hypnotist to change the juries viewpoint
> >> subliminally a la Milton Erickson ( of course he only used
> >> hypnosis for therapeutic treatment of course)
> >> OH wait they already hire forensic hypnotists to "elicit key
> >> details" from a traumatized witness. The mind indeed works in
> >> strange ways when trying to determine what one saw or did not see
> >> at a scene of crime.
> >> On 15/01/2015 21:54, doug wrote:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.wired.com/2014/12/prosecutors-powerpoint-presentations/
> >>>
> >>> The use of the subconscious in the Art of Deception....
> >>>
> >>> Guilty as charged your Honour...The power of Power Point...I
> >>> remember it well...:-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy.
> >>>
> >>> ATB Dougie.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> --
> >> *_PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION _*
> >>
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/when-time-comes-we-need-be-ready-fight-tpps-secret-anti-user-agenda
> >
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> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:21:01 +0000
> From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cryptome] The Art of Deception 2: Or how a Democracy uses
> Blackmail t
>
> see
> url:http://cryptome.org/2015/01/sterling-exhibits-105-108-nyt-15-0117.pdf
>
> James Risen, see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Risen
>
> Shows the tactics and strategy used by those "in the know" legally and
> those who are "in the know" illegally...Though which one is which is
> very much in doubt, but in the interests of free speech and free
> information, democracy and exposing government wrong doing which is in
> denial. I think I would give the reporter the benefit of the doubt. The
> story did, of course, did get published in the end. That's the trouble
> with classified information...it is just so leaky. What was it that
> they were trying to hide, the fact that the Iranians had already sussed
> it out, or genuinely to hide a deception and waste of taxpayers money
> from the American people?
>
> The funniest part about this story is what isn't said...which is, I
> think, is that the Iranians already knew that it was a scam and played
> along with it, stretched it out for all of its worth to see where it
> led; though I can't for the life of me remember where and when I read
> that. Good enough story for a Le Carre novel...in my view...:-)
> Enjoy,
> ATB
> Dougie.
>
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> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:35:06 +0000
> From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cryptome] Art of Deception 2: The weel laid plans o' mice and
> men...g
>
> see url: http://cryptome.org/2015/01/sterling-cia-exhibits.pdf
> for full documentation on CIA being deceived by Iran.
>
> As you can see my Langauge is changing...this is due to a genetic
> disturbance induced by the Anniversary of the Death of Robert Burns and
> the thocht of all that whisky and haggis which I will be eating over the
> next week or two at all those Burns Suppers I will attend. The
> celebration of this great event happens on Sunday 25th of January.
>
> I dedicate this posting to the CIA and all the other world security and
> intelligence services...Lang may yer lums reek.
>
> To a Mouse
>
> /On Turning Her Up in Her Nest with the Plough,
> November, 1785/
>
> Wee, sleekit, cowrin, tim'rous/beastie/,
> O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
> Thou need na start awa sae hasty not,
> Wi' bickering brattle!
> I wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
> Wi' murdering/pattle/!
>
> I'm truly sorry Man's dominion
> Has broken Nature's social union,
> An' justifies that ill opinion
> Which makes thee startle
> At me, thy poor, earth-born companion
> An'/fellow-mortal/!
>
> I doubt na, whyles, but thou may/thieve/;
> What then? poor beastie, thou maun live!
> A/daimen-icker/ in a/thrave/
> 'S a sma' requet;
> I'll get a blessin wi' the lave,
> An' never miss't!
>
> Thy wee-bit/housie/, too, in ruin!
> Its silly wa's the win's are strewin!
> An' naething, now, to big a new ane,
> O' foggage green!
> An' bleak/December's win's/ ensuing,
> Baith snell an' keen!
>
> Thou saw the fields laid bare an' waste,
> An' weary/Winter/ comin fast,
> An' cozie here, beneath the blast,
> Thou thought to dwell,
> Till crash! the cruel/coulter/ past
> Out thro' thy cell.
>
> That wee bit heap o' leaves and stibble,
> Has cost thee monie a weary nibble!
> Now thou's turned out, for a' thy trouble,
> But house or hald,
> To thole the Winter's/sleety dribble/,
> An'/cranreuch/ cauld!
>
> But Mousie, thou art no thy lane,
> In proving/foresight/ may be in vain:
> The best-laid schemes o'/Mice/ an'/Men/
> Gang aft agley,
> An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
> For promis'd joy!
>
> Still thou are blest, compared wi' me!
> The/present/ only toucheth thee:
> But Och! I/backward/ cast my e'e,
> On prospects drear!
> An'/forward/, tho' I cannot/see/,
> I/guess/ an'/fear/!
>
> Robert Burns
>
> Enjoy,
> ATB
> Dougie.
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