On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:19 PM, coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Tony Arcieri <bascule@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> ... >> What threat are you trying to prevent that isn't already solved by the use >> of cryptography alone? > > > this is some funny shit right here... LOL someone pointed out that i might be an ass about a legitimate query. here's a subset of all the things crypto alone does not protect: - your source of entropy, upon which all secrets rely. - your crypto implementation, which may leaks keys profusely out the side. - the peers you crypto with; often the most important info. - the complexity of attacking your crypted comms, which may be reduced to a tractable search space due to architectural or design flaws introduced by accident or $250,000,000 malicious intent. - the data in motion or at rest, beyond your crypto boundaries. i could go on...