> > they justify their activities in part by saying that "state actors" are > defined as "bad guys" therefore by their own definition they also are the > bad guys. what a mess!! > Shaun, the problem is that they put these labels on all except themselves.They do not want to see their own dirty reflection. Its not that they cant see it. So, as they say in the Indian adage "you can not wake a person who pretends that he is asleep" A.