Unsubscribe. He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither. Ben Franklin > On Mar 16, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Tom Allyn <tomallyn@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Unsubscribe > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:13 PM, "Ron boyer" <speedydelivery72@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Unsubscribe also from Ron Boyer. >> >> On Saturday, March 15, 2014, Tom Allyn <tomallyn@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > Unsubscribe >> > >> > Sent from my mobile device >> > Tom Allyn >> > >> >> On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:11 AM, tpb-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Message du 14/03/14 04:52 >> >>> De : "Troy Benjegerdes" >> >>> A : tpb-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> Copie à : "John Young" , cypherpunks@xxxxxxxxxx, >> >>> cryptography@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> Objet : Re: Comsec as Public Utility Beyond Illusory Privacy >> >> >> >>>>> getting agreement of all targets -- gov, com, edu, org -- to say >> >>>>> enough is enough, national security has become a catchall for >> >>>>> inexcusable invasion of the public realm. >> >>>> >> >>>> It remembers me when someone proposed that IPv6 encryption should >> >>>> become optional and the proposal was accepted. If we had IPv6 encrypted >> >>>> by now, things would be a little bit different ... >> >>> >> >>> And networks would be harder to debug, unless you happened to work for >> >>> the >> >>> comsec utility or the NSA and already had all the decryption keys. >> >>> >> >>> Let me suggestion using IPv7 where encryption is also optional, but at >> >>> least >> >>> happens to use the same ecdsa keys you use for your money to encrypt >> >>> packets >> >>> if you so desire. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> Troy Benjegerdes 'da hozer' hozer@xxxxxxxxx >> >>> 7 elements earth::water::air::fire::mind::spirit::soul grid.coop >> >>> >> >>> Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel, >> >>> nor try buy a hacker who makes money by the megahash >> >> >> >> I absolutely don't see the point that justifies debugging network >> >> problems to be a bigger concern than the privacy of everyone in the >> >> world. Debugging be damned. >> >> >> >> We should move to quantum-proof crypto, ECDSA is merely a stopgap. >> >> >> >