[cryptome] Re: UK To Ban Crypto In Devices, Email And More

  • From: Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 20:01:03 +0000

Well well well, what a surprise eh? thats like an open sesame of all terrorist cells to realign their sights right slap bang at the security services. in particularar they will be sniffing out the key escrow servers or databases or bits of paper or whatever.. alternatively they will find another way of covering their tracks.

and what of undercover journalists who by dint of their specialist position rely on tier commnications being secure from adverse state players? oh but then of cours as in America, invistigatives types are considered on a par with spies. it seems immaterial whether the saught after story is in the public interest.

and as for the Judicial oversight, I'm not so sure that will appease many privacy advocates simply becuase the security services will have the last say in who has access to what when an application is made for a warrent to apply back door access to data.

not to mention the question of whether of not"national security grounds" will have its legal definition clarified.

Just ma wee pennies worth



On 03/11/2015 18:20, John Young wrote:

Excellent development if the bill is enacted. Should shatter the complacency
of crypto advocates and foster other means and methods now getting
short shrift due to the faith in crypto hyping and marketing -- and tons of
excuses why crypto has not been as effective as foreordained, blame
users, blame implementation, blame standards committees, blame spies,
blame legislators, blame certificate authorities, blame hardware, blame
insiders and outsiders, blame amateurs, blame backdoors, blame
venal marketers who sold out to authorities, blame duat hatters working
both sides of the porous divide, blame open and closed source, the
pile of excuses grows exponentially as money is heaped onto the
fire for burning through faster and faster. NSA has at least 191 colleges
on the take for information assurance studies, with more joining daily
to get while the getting is good, sending graduates to corporations,
institutes, NGOs, hack world, leak world, defy authority world as
evidenced here in this sacred site of tipped gravestones to cipher

At 12:27 PM 11/3/2015, you wrote:

Internet firms to be banned from offering unbreakable encryption under new laws

3:16PM GMT 02 Nov 2015

Internet and social media companies will be banned from putting
customer communications beyond their own reach under new laws to be
unveiled on Wednesday.
Companies such as Apple, Google and others will no longer be able to
offer encryption so advanced that even they cannot decipher it when
asked to, the Daily Telegraph can disclose.
Measures in the Investigatory Powers Bill will place in law a
requirement on tech firms and service providers to be able to provide
unencrypted communications to the police or spy agencies if requested
through a warrant.

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