[cryptome] Re: UK General Election 2017: Exit Polls

  • From: "douglas rankine" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "douglasrankine" for DMARC)
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 11:18:36 +0100

Hi Maggz Lucas,

I should have said 2017...in the Subject head, must have been my subconscious memories of the Russian Revolution, blinding my conscious prejudices about the world of today...or too much Scotch whiskey at the time of writing.:-)

Scottish Oil fits in with the concept of a Scottish currency, the Sceuro, and Scottish Independence...it is running out:-). If one thinks on it, Scottish Oil was no more Scottish than American Oil is American. Geographically, it might have been contained therein, but economically and in its ownership, it is owned by the uncrowned Queen Elizabeth I of Scotland, and Elizabeth II Queen of England, and leased out, with huge state subsidies, to international private corporations so that they could profit by it and make a small contribution in wages and taxes to the United Kingdom government, which then, in turn, gives Scotland a little bit of fodder in the form of an annual allowance under the rules of the European Union.

Scottish Independence foundered on the concept of Scotland remaining in the European Union and taking up the Euro as its main currency, but when the EU economy and the Euro started to also go down the pan at the time of the referendum, the Scottish people realised that their bluff had been called and voted to stay with their old friends, the English, seeing them as the lesser evil. Unfortunately for the Scottish National Party...they didn't...realise, and have now peaked...or is it piqued and have fallen down from the top of the hill...:-)

Now, they have foundered once again, calling for independence for Scotland in a new referendum, and...to be honest with you, like pear cider is made from 100% pears....

se url: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stewart+lee+pear+cider+

It was one of those bubbles that went pear shaped...:-).



On 09/06/2017 00:27, Mags Lucas wrote:

Mr. Rankine, where does North Sea oil fit into the bright picture of Scottish independence?

M. Lucas

On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:41 PM, douglas rankine (Redacted sender "douglasrankine" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

When the Scottish National Party took power...We became Lesser Britain...in mind if not physically...:-). Now, we just got to get Australia back from the Chinese...Given up on the USA...:-).



On 08/06/2017 22:47, Peter M Howell wrote:
Never mind.  Prognostication is a risky biz much like politics.

There has to be a reason or two for people to vote Labour, I suspect it might be genetic though nurture will likely have not helped.

When did Britain stop being Great...

On Jun 8, 2017 10:17 PM, "douglas rankine" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    see url:

    Just goes to show how wrong I could be...:-)

    On 08/06/2017 21:59, douglas rankine (Redacted sender
    douglasrankine for DMARC) wrote:

        Dear Colleagues,

        You may...or may not...have noticed that I haven't written
        anything about the General Election being held in the UK
        today. It is a very unusual election, with the electorate
        and the politicians and the political parties, very much in
        a political, economic, social and historical muddle, about
        what is the right way to go forward in the future.  46.9
        million citizens of the UK are registered to vote, out of a
        population of around 65 and a half million, the largest
        registration on record.  There are 650 constituencies to be
        fought for and around 9 political parties, apart from
        independents contesting the election.

        The issues are Brexit, hard or soft, a single market, large
        scale immigration; and social and economic policies, mainly
        the national health service, social service provision,
        looking after the elderly, education and social welfare,
        with the main discussion about which party can provide the
        people with the most secure and progressive future, and
        which leader shows themselves to be the strongest
        personality for leading the political struggle, particularly
in exiting the European Union in the next couple of years. The main parties are the Conservative Party, the Labour
        Party, the nationalist parties, and smaller parties such as
        the Greens and UKIP, along with small numbers of independents.

        The Conservatives, who were in power, decided to call an
        election so that they could get a mandate from the people,
        by increasing their majority in parliament, so that their
        leadership's hands wouldn't be tied in the coming
        negotiations with the European Union, and to put them in a
        strong negotiating position.  Election law in the UK was
        changed a few years ago, in that the right to call a general
        election was taken away from the remit of the Prime
        Minister, into organising a regular election once every five
        years, or if the Houses of Parliament decides by a
        substantial majority decides to call one. The Conservatives
        wish to continue with the austerity programme, cutting back
        public expenditure, lowering taxes, including corporation
        tax and continuing with the squeeze on the public sector
        wages and capital expenditure, and asking the elderly and
        infirm who own their own homes to forfeit much of the wealth
        in their estate to pay for their care when they  become
        ill.  Very small increases, in public expenditure, not even
        keeping pace with inflation is envisaged for the future,
        with further privatisation, and cut backs in the civil and
        public services.

        The Labour Party, whilst supporting an election, is in
        complete and utter disarray, with most of its M.P.s opposing
        Brexit, wishing to remain in the European Union, whilst many
        of its supporters are in favour of Brexit.  Their economic
        and social policies include increasing public expenditure
        and taxes on the wealthier classes in our society, to
        provide for extra funding for improving the infrastructure
        of our society, the National Health Service, education and
        re-nationalise the railways.

        Historically, both leaders of the two main political
        parties, stood on opposite sides over Brexit or remain, and
both have shifted their positions to the opposite view. And, in fact very little discussion has taken place about
        what will be done about cutting back immigration or about
        our negotiating position when it comes to leaving the
        European Union.  There has been lots of talk, but the main
        thing appears to be to keep a single market, free of
        tariffs, at the same time avoid the free movement of labour,
        which is a mainstay of the European Union and one of the
        main sticking blocks, along with the alleged cost of leaving.

        The recent terrorist activity has led to calls by the
        Conservatives for the UK to leave the European Court of
        Human Rights, so that the government and to increase the
        power of the Security and Intelligence Services so that they
        can have carte blanche powers to control alleged terrorists,
        without resort to the courts, in cases where there is not
        enough evidence to prosecute them.  It is most unfortunate
        that the recent spate of terrorists, were all known to the
        Security Services, but nothing was done about them, and for
        some reason there are many Conservatives who think that
        removing human rights of all of us, including themselves, is
        going to somehow prevent terrorism...it is an old story of

        It is in this background, that me missus and I decided to
        vote in an election for many decades. Usually, we don't
        bother, not because we don't believe in elections or
        democracy, but purely because we couldn't find a candidate
        whom we felt could represent our views in parliament
        adequately, and long experience has shown that they really
        want to look after themselves rather than anyone else, and,
        if I were in their position, I would most likely want to do
        the same.

        So, this morning, off we went to the local polling station,
        in a local community centre, to register our vote.  I
        noticed that it was very busy when we got there, the car
        park was full, there were many people about, and the road
        was blocked by the local Labour Party candidate who was
        ferrying some elderly folks in wheelchairs in his car, who
        was hoping that they would vote for him,  and had parked in
        the middle of the road in a no parking area, preventing
        anyone from coming or going to vote, resulting in a large
        traffic jam...but such is the nature of politicians, they
        don't notice such things, they don't know what they are
        doing, living in their own little world of dreams of
        political power and being loved by the masses.   When we
        eventually entered the polling station, there was no sign of
        a policeman or policewoman, armed or otherwise, no soldiers
        guarding the station, just some friendly civilian public
        servants who were there to record our presence and issue our
        voting papers, tick us off the list, and make sure that we
        put our voting papers in the boxes.

        In all the time of the elections, over 3 weeks, I think I
        saw about 3 election posters, all for the Conservative
        Party, which rules the roost in this part of the country,
        here in the South of England, and there was never any sign
        of vans with loudhailers fitted, and politicians spouting
        their politics to the masses as they drove round the
        streets.  No one knocked on my door, though the UnRoyal
        Mail, did deliver some free leaflets from the candidates.
        These days it is all about Facebook and Twitter, and not
        being a member of those, I missed all the false news, lies,
        deceptions and hypes.  Hopefully, the candidates and
        political parties will keep within their election
        expenditure caps in this election, and hopefully, the
        Russians or the Americans haven't been able to influence or
        muck up our voting procedures to bring about the politics in
        the UK, that their leadership or the CIA or the Intelligence
        services think they might want to make American Great Again.

        Oh!  Not that you will want to know, but I voted for Labour,
        even though they are opposed to Brexit.  I didn't use logic,
        or illogic, I didn't use rationality or irrationality, I
        didn't vote with my head or my heart, I didn't use emotional
        intelligence, but voted for them purely because I wanted to
        do my little bit to try and make sure that the Conservatives
        don't get elected with an overwhelming majority.  One should
        always try ones best to make sure that politicians work hard
        and think hard for their money, and prevent polarisation of
        the biggest parties, or monopolise the political scene, and
        of course globalisation and huge international corporations
        now rule the roost, along with groups of international
        elites these days, national governments have very little
        power in the world economy.

        I hope you enjoy this little treatise...if not I do
        apologise for wasting your time.



        P.S. Oh!  And who do I think will win?  The Conservatives of
        course, with an overwhelming majority...

        P.P.S. Can anyone tell me when the time was when America was
        Great in the first place.  I keep racking my brains but just
        can't work out what Trump means...Was there a time when
        America was more charitable than it is now...I wonder; a
        time when charities spent the money they raised on the
        deserving and needy and poor, rather than subsidising the
        rich and wealthy gentlefolk and elites of New York and
        Washington when they go to play golf...:-).

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