[cryptome] Re: The NSA snooping.

  • From: nativebuddha <nativebuddha@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:19:28 -0400

The NSA is at the end of the loop. Most these "problems" are the result of
horrible foreign policy. Using drones now produces resentment, frustration
and anger, which leads to political violence by some later on down the
line. There wouldn't be a need for such a high surveillance, lockdown
approaches to national security, if the US did a better job in the
international arena.

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:18 AM, System Rat <systemrat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Perhaps I am missing something fundamental here but you guys are getting
> upset that the NSA is doing its job in maintaining an ability to intercept
> communications be that by whatever means Morse to smoke signals or sharks
> with lasers (Dr. Evil Austin Powers). I am not a terrorist nor would I
> disclose secrets that might harm the state or its allies if I knew any that
> is. (By the state I mean people like you and me that live there NOT the
> current political party.) Any NSA or local equivalent analyst would most
> lightly go off on stress leave if forced to monitor my online activity due
> to boredom. If I live in some repressive regime for example the former east
> Germany then I might fear a knock on the door. BUT on the other hand the
> NSA or its local equivalent via technical means have the ability to target
> and monitor the bad guys by definition for example Al Qaeda is that a bad
> thing ? Do you have some proof for example Al Qaeda is not using a local
> ISP near you ? The counter argument to objecting to them monitoring is
> events like 9/11 represent a failure in identifying the threat. Perhaps  Al
> Qaeda’s tradecraft was not to disclose any useful information in
> communications that might be intercepted. I hope any and every means is
> being employed to help prevent a repeat of that atrocity now. I would not
> trust the current government of my country to run the chook raffle and
> there are many corrupt elements in the current government without doubt but
> I seriously doubt the men and women in the security services here or at NSA
> are anything but seeking to do the best for their respective countries. Not
> sure if this is real but in the movies I’ve seem a poster “ I god we trust
> everyone else we monitor”  ****

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