[cryptome] Re: Syria

  • From: Haim Barak <haim357@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:02:15 -0400


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Dark Redmond <darkredptc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  On 08/27/2013 09:09 PM, Andrew Hornback wrote:
> > You're approaching this from the point of view that this is a lose/lose
> proposition - which opponent do you prefer, one that you know or one that
> you don't know?
> >
> > The loss of any life (American, Syrian, otherwise) is regrettable -
> however, Europe and the United States don't exactly have a great track
> record of building stable nations after "conquering" them at this point in
> history.  If you care to argue that point, I have a few examples for you...
> Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
> >
> > That said, the ultimate goal here, in my opinion, would be to restore
> sovereignty to Syria (and hope that the people can hold Democratic
> elections) while at the same time removing their capability to deploy any
> form of weapons of mass destruction against anyone (foreign or domestic),
> preferably without firing a shot (as per Sun Tzu).
> >
> > What's the mechanism that we should use to attain that goal?  Lobbing
> Tomahawks doesn't seem like it would be an appropriate solution, nor does
> putting lives in danger by invading.  The key is to find something that
> Assad needs in order to maintain control over the country and remove it
> from his possession without harming the Syrian people.  That takes
> diplomacy and a lot of "number crunching" instead of the "gnashing of
> teeth", as it were.
> >
> > Acts of aggression are a sign that either a) all attempts at diplomacy
> have failed or b) no further attempts at diplomacy are within the purview
> of the political regime that is trying to negotiate.  Some people, you
> simply can't reach...
> >
> > --- A
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Dark Redmond <darkredptc@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:darkredptc@xxxxxxxxx> <darkredptc@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 08/27/2013 08:45 PM, Haim Barak wrote:
> >     > Andrew, So what do we do continue to see genocide  mass
> destruction of children and women and look from the side
> >     > As if nothing is happening,
> >     There is no result that doesnt end in loss of life. The only
> question is do you want assad and his questionable human rights record or
> radical islamists in charge?
> >
> >
> Since doing so without firing a shot is impossible we are going to enjoy
> another long occupation of "democracy". After which we pull out and the
> "bad guys" take back over. Just a distraction from the NSA and state of
> economy.


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