Agreed, I saw that this surfaced in the press somewhere near page 3 of the
Sun perhaps.. more than a year ago... then slowly submerged with barely a
ripple on untroubled waters..
The Norwegians , however, will not put up with media backsliding. Perhaps
Norwegian children still play with dolls..
But, where is this going? If we agree that it is 'wrong' and 'unreasonable'
for 'others' to carry out clandestine surveilance of children - biased to a
moral perception- at what age and in what circumstances is it ever
from a 'child' ? A parent could never agree on behalf of an unwitting child
- that would be crass and abusive.
And who determines when the need for consent is no longer needed because
the child grew up .
Mrs Howell thinks I am still a kid so can I be protected from perverse
underhand secretive surveilance ?
The press would have us believe that the ranks of politicians are replete
with pedophiles so there is no safety for us kids there .
I need my teddy..
On 6 Dec 2016 15:00, "douglas rankine" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Peter M. Howell,
It is old news. I believe that one of our colleagues brought the subject
to our attention, around this time last year. Nuffink changes...and when
they do, they can only get worse...It is open season on the internet these
days, from the NSA to our children, from the President to "A Cat Called
On 06/12/2016 11:54, Peter M Howell wrote:
Is this old news still in play or has someone just woken up to another
part of the surveilance 'ice berg' that commerce and security trade to
''Internet-connected Cayla and i-QUE, manufactured by Los Angeles-based
Genesis Toys, hook up with a user via a phone or tablet while Hello Barbie
links to the internet through Wi-Fi, said the consultancy Bouvet on behalf
of the Norwegian Consumer Council.
Hello Barbie is not sold in Europe.''
"By purpose and design, these toys record and collect the private
conversations of young children without any limitations on collection, use,
or disclosure of this personal information," EPIC and other US watchdogs
said in their complaint, which they say "concerns toys that spy".
"Anything the child tells the doll is transferred to the US-based company
Nuance Communications, who specialises in speech recognition technologies,"
"The toys <http://phys.org/tags/toys/> are embedded with pre-programmed
phrases, where they endorse different commercial products," BEUC said.
''They also asked the commission to halt Genesis' failure to use
"reasonable security measures" for bluetooth connections for Cayla and
They urged the body to investigate and prevent US-based Nuance from using
children's speech data to improve products and services sold to military,
government and law enforcement agencies.''
*And this is not a scream out loud public nightmare ? pmh *