[cryptome] Re: Regin: Top-tier espionage tool enables stealthy surveillance

  • From: Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:14:57 +0000

Judging by the targets of REGIN as it has been dubbed, demonstrates
quite clearly that the surveillance apparatus has NOTHING whatsoever to
do with counter terrorism and everything to do with 
industrial/commercial espionage on a grand scale. ( counter terrorism
probably being just a smokescreen).

the timing is interestng as well since in the UK Theresa may in the UK
has made big play of using tracking methodoligies in order to locate and
disrupt the activities of people  deemed to have been ( or are being)
"radicalised". it is known from past events that this level of
surveillance has been and is used against. for example. journalists
conducting their legitimate business ( this particularly has a knock on
effect for investigative journalists who rely on confidentiality to find
information that is clearly in the public interest. )

to go a little off topic lets consider the definition of liberalization.
at its most extreme it is a process whereby an individual or group of
individuals undergoes a shift in their beleifs and transitions to
plotting, planning and ultimately executing violent acts in support of
their views, on the other hand redicaziation can , in its most benign
form refers to a radical shift in viewpoints that is contrary to
government thinking and policy but leads to reasoned argument and
protest as a consequence..

Of course no one in their right mind would object to measures designed
to curb violent conduct in all its forms but their is a growing concern
i think that theese massive surveilance measures are in danger of being
used for  potentially heinous reasons like rounding up minority groups
because they are not "economically viable".

what's the betting that, in the not too distant future it will be quite
possible to intercept the electrical impulses from an individuals brain.
decode those impulses and then extract the individuals thought processes
in human readable form  in real time. ( it has already been demonstrated
that images can be captured from the occipital lobe of the brain and
viewed on a screen ).



On 25/11/2014 18:34, doug wrote:
> Hi Aftermath & Coderman,
> I read the report by Symantec on the url you gave.  It is a very
> impressive piece of software.  Quite amazing really.  If this is the
> sort of standard the state security sector has developed to, then one
> can see why there is such concern throughout the world wide security
> and intelligence industries, particularly in those private sectors and
> corporations which are NOT involved in state security.  How does one
> conduct a business these days, if not only one's computers, but
> private and corporate networks are being taken over "p0wned I think
> the phrase is) by the NSA and other state intelligence and security
> organisations.  How does a finance officer or a chief executive
> offier, or a board of directors keep business matters confidential
> these days.  It is bad enough having word of mouth in the boardroom,
> having it swept for bugs, and stopping directors from having any
> electronic equipment in the boardroom in attempting to get some kind
> of confidentiality and security of company data, stratagems and so
> on.  Finance officers are going to find it increasing difficult to
> present the financial states of their companies if there are no
> controls put in place. The USA may be the most clever and most
> sophisticated and spend the most resources in the field at the moment,
> but other nation states are learning, particularly since Snowden
> opened the back and front doors on the activities of the NSA.  One can
> see it all back firing on the USA any time soon.
> It is quite remarkable that Symantec has managed to find out so much
> about this piece of software.  Just goes to show, that no matter how
> much the perpetrators try to keep it secret, it still comes out in the
> end.
> One little query I have, which, hopefully you can help me with, is on
> the question of triggers.  I understand the concept, but how does this
> help to conceal the malware within the software?
> On 24/11/14 02:29, Aftermath wrote:
>> Regin: Top-tier espionage tool enables stealthy surveillance
>> http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/regin-top-tier-espionage-tool-enables-stealthy-surveillance
>> [pdf]
>> http://www.symantec.com/content/en/us/enterprise/media/security_response/whitepapers/regin-analysis.pdf
>> _______________________________________________


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