[cryptome] Re: Putin: Living In The Clouds

  • From: Todd Judge <toddbob@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 03:31:28 +0900

Pretty much so, thanks. Instead of anything close to defining needs and 
designing logical solutions, the American/western "way to do things" has been 
to, hey, use technology(!). That'll do it.  Govt Top down directive now spews 
only from brains quick to pick up on the latest cartoon-logic cronies' sales 
pitches that rob and flush tax $ straight down the toilet.  
The "representatives" we elect, at all levels, now have absolutely no problem 
solving skills.  That ability has been bred right out of them by now.  So 
obvious unless you like their same commercials.  They're good at remembering 
the commercials they like but their brains are a mirror of the dumbness we've  
been so eager to adopt.

Technology is nothing more than a post hole shovel.  It's a tool, but the 
stupid commercials constantly mesmerizing our power craving governments 
brazenly scream false claim that the shiny thing thinks and acts wisely, so 
they don't have to cover for their personal lack of basic intellect.  How many 
"plan B"s do you know of for current programs paid for? And what % of the most 
expensive nonsense lint today does what it's supposed to do?

Problem solving in security, comm and political but unnecessary programs around 
the west is never the foundation of design, nor even mentioned.  You're only 
fed "looky what this monstrosity will do!".  And the results are so poorly 
created, they don't do what you just heard they are doing, and if the original 
intent had any justifiable basis to solve a problem, that vanished before 
contracts were even finalized Gonesky.

Typewriters is more than smart, it's an applicable analogy to solve the 
smallest to biggest problems (in this case most effective way to limit for 
access by a simple cheap piece of paper and ink).  Power grid attack, etc, ?   
No absolute shutdown if you have a piece of paper and a crayon, dirty stick, 
pencil, or a mechanical typewriter.  All you need is an equally simple way to 
get the paper to its recipient.   Something so simple, typewriters solve the 
top two issues any govt requires to operate. Outside access intimate security 
and all levels of govt emergency communications.  
(I start plans instructing teams to forget all about technology until we solve 
all problems first, design alternate mitigation second, and functional plan Bs 
third.). It works every time. 
Taa-daa.  Mechanical typewriters and Russians.  Who-da-thunk-it?


> On Jul 7, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Jeremy Compton <j.compton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Your point is the Russian are not dumb. Yes, that is not disputed. With the 
> recent conflict in Syria and the offshore naval contestation Putin managed to 
> bring this whole Shakespearean drama to a close by removing chemical weapons 
> of the table which would have lead to a naval shooting match.
> The strategy of Putin and Obama has been compared to that of Obama playing 
> checkers and Putin playing 3 dimensional chess.  
> Putin, is a very smart player, this is obvious :) Obama, does not appear to 
> be at the moment, unless he is playing another game that is not that obvious. 
> Jeremy
> > From: toddbob@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [cryptome] Re: Putin: Living In The Clouds
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 21:33:42 +0900
> > To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > And don't forget, Russia does know about insuring internal communications 
> > security while taking on these ventures. The Russian govt still buys more 
> > typewriters than the rest of the world combined. Or something like that. 
> > Wait. What was my point?
> > Todd
> > 
> > > On Jul 7, 2014, at 8:22 PM, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Dear Colleagues,
> > > 
> > > I see that Mr. Putin and his government have decided that the Clouds over 
> > > the USA are no longer an option, and that he will be "nationalising" the 
> > > storage data of his citizenry. Bad news for those companies who sell 
> > > their "secure" options in the clouds in the USA, they will have to get 
> > > their act together sufficiently to convince other countries that there is 
> > > not only no "unauthorised" access, but access which is guaranteed to be 
> > > secure to the nation or corporations' satisfaction. Maybe though, that is 
> > > an impossible task...and instead they will get more subsidies from the 
> > > government so that they can keep going and keep up appearances.
> > > 
> > > Who wants to buy fake, or counterfeit goods these days, especially when 
> > > they are no good and don't work. It is not only American citizens who are 
> > > suffering the consequences. How can people and companies or corporations, 
> > > who are not American citizens, and therefore have no rights of security 
> > > of their information,take part in negotiating contracts at arms length in 
> > > a global economy, which the US and western states are encouraging so 
> > > much, when the security services are helping themselves to the same 
> > > confidential information and refusing to allow proper inspection and 
> > > oversight to make sure that they aren't selling off such information to 
> > > the highest American bidder, or surreptitiously, privately to other 
> > > bidders? Bad news for the "samisdat" Russians too.
> > > 
> > > Presumably this move will have the added advantage of making it more 
> > > difficult for the prying eyes to get access, and at the same time, allow 
> > > Putin and his agencies to use the benefits of Edward Snowdens 
> > > revelations, tiny though they are, to improve the collection, collation, 
> > > sifting and sorting, profiling and targeting of the data of his own home 
> > > citizens, for purposes diverse and devious. It has taken them a while to 
> > > catch up with the wiles and ways of the old KGB and their relations with 
> > > western security services. Perhaps they have been far too trusting, or 
> > > complacent, or busy with other priorities...not any more.
> > > 
> > > I understand that a number of other nation states are contemplating going 
> > > down the same route. Perhaps we will see attempts at the expansion of "5 
> > > Eyes" and associated nation states who share less information with the 
> > > USA and its colleagues, as a way of overcoming the attempt to collect 
> > > everything that moves electronically. One never knows about such things, 
> > > enemies can become friends, or friendly aliens, so quickly in the world 
> > > these days, that one can hardly keep up with it.
> > > 
> > > One never knows, one might even see the Chinese legitimately getting in 
> > > on the act and gaining the trust and friendship into the worlds "secret" 
> > > security exchanges...;-)
> > > ATB
> > > Douglas
> > > 
> > 

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