[cryptome] Re: Putin: Living In The Clouds

  • From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 14:35:49 +0100

Hi Todd,
That mechanical typewriters are more secure than electric or digital ones?:-)

On 07/07/14 13:33, Todd Judge wrote:
And don't forget, Russia does know about insuring internal communications 
security while taking on these ventures.  The Russian govt still buys more 
typewriters than the rest of the world combined. Or something like that.
Wait. What was my point?

On Jul 7, 2014, at 8:22 PM, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

I see that Mr. Putin and his government have decided that the Clouds over the USA are no longer an option, 
and that he will be "nationalising" the storage data of his citizenry.  Bad news for those 
companies who sell their "secure" options in the clouds in the USA, they will have to get their act 
together sufficiently to convince other countries that there is not only no "unauthorised" access, 
but access which is guaranteed to be secure to the nation or corporations' satisfaction.  Maybe though, that 
is an impossible task...and instead they will get more subsidies from the government so that they can keep 
going and keep up appearances.

  Who wants to buy fake, or counterfeit goods these days, especially when they are no 
good and don't work.   It is not only American citizens who are suffering the 
consequences.  How can people and companies or corporations, who are not American 
citizens, and therefore have no rights of security of their information,take part in 
negotiating contracts at arms length in a global economy, which the US and western states 
are encouraging so much, when the security services are helping themselves to the same 
confidential information and refusing to allow proper inspection and oversight to make 
sure that they aren't selling off such information to the highest American bidder, or 
surreptitiously, privately to other bidders? Bad news for the "samisdat" 
Russians too.

   Presumably this move will have the added advantage of making it more 
difficult for the prying eyes to get access, and at the same time, allow Putin 
and his agencies to use the benefits of Edward Snowdens revelations, tiny 
though they are, to improve the collection, collation, sifting and sorting, 
profiling and targeting of the data of his own home citizens, for purposes 
diverse and devious.  It has taken them a while to catch up with the wiles and 
ways of the old KGB and their relations with western security services.  
Perhaps they have been far too trusting, or complacent, or busy with other 
priorities...not any more.

I understand that a number of other nation states are contemplating going down the same 
route.  Perhaps we will see attempts at the expansion of "5 Eyes" and 
associated nation states who share less information with the USA and its colleagues, as a 
way of overcoming the attempt to collect everything that moves electronically.  One never 
knows about such things, enemies can become friends, or friendly aliens, so quickly in 
the world these days, that one can hardly keep up with it.

One never knows, one might even see the Chinese legitimately getting in on the act and 
gaining the trust and friendship into the worlds "secret" security 

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