I see that you have all been very busy doing your own thing, or been away on
holiday, with no contributions to Cryptome mailing list. It must be a record.
I hope you all enjoyed yourself and your time away. I did. I spent almost a
month at my little house in the middle of France, this time, I was working on
installing new kitchen units, which involved some plumbing, electrical work and
reconstruction in the kitchen. It was a lovely escape from the more mundane
things of life. And...as you know, we do not have a connection to the internet
or television, though we do have plenty of books and take our computers with
us. The weather was very nice, warm, even hot, though we are a thousand feet
up and in the middle of nowhere. We had a tete a tete with our French
neighbours who live next door, lovely people, very helpful and who look after
our property when we are away. And our family came to visit for a week or two,
and we had plenty of barbecues and lots of French wine and cheese and that
delicious French bread.
I even managed to do some research on the man who invented the "medium is the
massage", which I first read way back in the 1970's when Mr. Macluhan first hit
the headlines with his thesis on how we are all under the psychological,
political, social and economic control of the big, fat international
capitalists who are media specialists, in brainwashing and advertising. I had
forgotten all about it, it was so long ago, but the more I read it the more I
thought how much he re-iterated my thoughts at the time. Still, when one isn't
in contact with the media, for a month, one isn't influenced by it, unless, of
course, there are post hypnotic catch phrases put into ones mind before one
goes away on holiday...And, I suppose, if one doesn't have the money to spend
on the products and services, it is all a pointless exercise. Still, that is
what society is all about, in my view, full of promises, if little else, though
one does look forward to the day when robots will do all those little jobs
which we find so interesting and artistic, a robot with idealism, that is what
needs to be invented, which works on an algorithm, which isn't interested in
money, or destroying our habitat or the social aspects of mankind, but works
purely to satisfy our basic needs, allowing us to indulge in our wants, desires
and other indulgences with all the time in the world in which to do so.
It was nice to know too, that on my return, Brexit was still happening, and
Donald Trump and that other nutter from North Korea hadn't managed to start of
the next world war, and are now engaged in more important things like
discussions and sanctions at the UN. The proper way to deal with such things,
though the U.S. appears to be running out of sanctions and other options these
days, as they would have to introduce sanctions which would affect their own
trade if they were to take it any further.
I have been reading an important law report from the Indian Supreme Court,
which discusses whether Privacy as a human right...or not, is part of the
Indian Constitution as expressed in article 19 to 21. The Indian Constitution,
of course, is a written one and has a socialism clause in it which I dare say
will not be much to the liking of my dear colleague, friend, Kumrad and soul
mate, Chien Fume....woof woof, cough cough, a la French....:-)
see url: https://thewire.in/170303/supreme-court-aadhaar-right-to-privacy/
The full report is at the bottom of the web page. I must say, that I do love
the way that the Judges of the Supreme Court use the English language to
express their legal views and opinions. The language is so straightforward and
easy to understand with very few of the Latin and Greek phraseology which we
use in the English Common law, and with a smattering of Hindi and other Indian
languages just to whet the appetite of those who are interested in
international linguistics and semantics...but there you are, each to his/her
own and I suppose that I am one of the lucky ones in this world who has the
leisure time to explore and enjoy such areas of this world in which we live.
On 21/08/2017 16:37, douglas rankine wrote:
Yup! He was a terrible person, ate his own shit and picked his own nose, just
like the rest of us. Stupid, mad, diabolical, obsessed, self publicist, sex
mad, thought he was Gods answer to the masses, and he really fucked up a
completely sane world.
Just think how better off the world would have been if he had never got born,
the planet would have been full of peace and harmony, no more wars, abundance
of goods and services, no racism, sexism, agism, transgenderism, no more
imperialism, and we could have all been stoned out of our minds on the opiates
of the people, blessing the Lord my God, and if you don't believe in My God,
Donald Trump, and a Trump tower and Mara a lago golf complex being put in your
Capital city...tough! Your soul will be damned forever and when you die, your
body will be placed alongside Karl Marx's at Marks & Spencers corner, in
Highgate cemetery, Hampstead Heath, overlooking the bright lights of London,
where the streets are paved with gold...but now mercifully silent for four
whole years, due to poor capitalist deregulated, free enterprise work practices
and sub standard materials. Long live the Queen.
And as for Socialism....people should never cooperate with one another, provide
each other with mutual benefits, no more friendly societies, no more kibbutzes,
no more trades unions or guilds, no more voluntary work. People should be
forced to work, at a pittance of a wage, who cares if they starve, feed them
cake. Bosses should rule the world and have freedom to make the worker, the
peasants, the plebs do as they are told. Law for the bosses, and order for the
workers, that's the way to go, for ever and ever, Amen.
I could go on...
P.S. I used to believe in Karl Marx, but there again I used to believe in
Father Christmas...but don't tell my grandchildren...😃
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Subject: [cryptome] Socialism's God—Karl Marx: Was He Stupid, Insane…or
NOTE: I personally don't believe in anthromorphic gods and devils but think
that Marx and his followers do believe in them. Marx hated the idea of God.
Nobody and nothing could be bigger than the man who claimed to have discovered
the ultimate and final truth.
It surprised me to discover that the harshest critics of Marx were those who
made up the original group of admirers. After Marx died, Engels published
writings that Marx had forbidden anyone to publish while he was alive. Those
works undermine the basic assumptions and claims of Marxist ideology.
As with other religious movements, Marxism prefers to ignore the huge amount of
information pointing to a very unscientific and egotistical way of thinking.
The following provides information that some true-believing Marxists will find
disturbing. Others will revel in the dirty truth about the grifter Mad Hatter
they worship as a new Mohammed, declaring a unique, infallible,
not-to-be-questioned belief system.
Socialism's God—Karl Marx: Was He Stupid, Insane…or Possessed?
Karl Marx lived from 1818-1883. The question addressed today is whether Marx
accidentally created the most inefficient and murderous set of beliefs in
history, or if something more dreadful was at work in his mind and heart.
The crux is whether Marx simply gave up belief in God, or more darkly—decided
to cast his lot with Satan against Yahweh, in spite of the implications?
Surprisingly, Marx made a large number of statements seemingly in support of
the Devil, judgment and hell. But the reader can decide themselves the question
of this essay—whether Marx was stupid, crazed or diabolical.
I. Explaining Marx’s Character
Considering Karl Marx’s character, in Paul Johnson’s illuminating book
he is described as a natural rebel who fought with his conservative, capitalist
father. In later years Johnson describes the shambolic life shared with his
wife Jennie, and how continual poverty bore down on their family, exacting a
mighty toll. Marx is described as extremely unkempt and unclean, with filthy
skin continually suffering boils and carbuncles from its unhygienic state.
According to Johnson, a fellow revolutionary named Karl Heinzen described the
perpetually angry Marx’s repulsive appearance:
He found Marx “intolerably dirty,” a “cross between a cat and an ape,” with
“disheveled coal-black hair and dirty yellow complexion.” It was said
impossible to say whether his clothes were mud-colored or just filthy.
Interestingly, Marx was a hypocrite in several ways. First, he held a family
servant as essentially an indentured slave in his home, never paying her. For
someone who based his life’s work on liberating the poor and victimized, this
is shocking. Second, he had a son with this domestic servant whom he never
acknowledged, despite them living in attached quarters. Third, he lived off his
friend Engel’s wealth taken from the factories he’d inherited from his father.
So he was completely supported by capitalist largess which was said to not
Was Karl Marx stupid? Whether Marx was lacking in intellect can be easily
deduced. He graduated with his PhD at 24, an early age, so he could not have
lacked raw intelligence. Johnson describes him as a good, not great scholar,
who graduated from a lesser university, and doesn’t seem to have been talented
enough to pick up a teaching post.
Johnson describes his intellectual character:
But in a deeper sense he was not really a scholar and not a scientist at all.
He was not interested in finding the truth but in proclaiming it. There were
three strands in Marx: the poet, the journalist and the moralist. Each was
important. Together, and in combination with his enormous will, they made him a
formidable writer and seer. But there was nothing scientific about him; indeed,
in all that matters he was anti-scientific.
Johnson claims his great gift was in “polemical (argumentative) journalism” and
that he had a real gift for creating memorable, poetic images to suit his
arguments, although he was a relentless borrower of others ideas and phrases.
For example, his entire worldview is lifted almost whole from Hegel, although
he does adapt it to extreme atheism. But all of his work exhibits intellectual
dishonesty, if not outright fraud, whether purposeful or the results of mere
rabid bias, according to Johnson.
Again, we ask was Karl Marx crazy or clinically insane? What are the criteria
of insanity? According to Merriam-Webster’s
dictionary<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insanity>, Insanity is:
1. a deranged state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder (as
2. such unsoundness of mind or lack of understanding as prevents one from
having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular
relationship, status, or transaction or as removes one from criminal or civil
There simply appears to be no record that Marx was so unbalanced that he had to
be institutionalized. But he was a manic person, prone to violent fits, who was
also obsessed with violence. But we will have to give him a pass here.
1. Religious & Secular Possession
We can, without irony, describe someone as “possessed” even if no God exists,
and therefore no Satan, existed either. How? Because a person can be taken over
by extremely negative and even ungodly beliefs, and therefore “possessed” by
these, while refusing wholesome ideals.
But what is “possession” in the classical, biblical sense? One writer gives
Mark 5:1-20<http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+5&version=NIV> is
the definitive passage on demon possession and its effects in the Bible:
Devils want to be near dead human bodies or tombs; They can make a person
unreasonable or immune to sensible persuasion; They cause sadistic and
masochistic behavior; They know they deserve torment and dread it; They can
cause animals to kill themselves.
II. Was Karl Marx Possessed?
Of course, if possession occurs, whether Karl Marx was possessed is impossible
to know for certain. But, there are some things that might cause open-minded
people to believe he could have been under Satan’s malign influence. Consider
A. Marx’s Ungodly Beliefs
Karl Marx could be a devil-follower for these reasons:
1. He was a virulent atheist and made his system atheistic. This is almost
unprecedented in history.
2. Marx gave the state unlimited powers over humans, like a god.
3. People have no human rights in Marxism, so are like beasts.
4. Marx believed the state had a right to use coercion, including violence
up to death, on its subjects.
5. Marx rejected each of the Ten Commandments.
6. Marx taught religion was a dangerous delusion.
7. There is no right or wrong in Marx’s philosophy—only power.
8. The Poor are not sanctified in Marxism, but just factory workers.
9. Marx disliked Jews, Yahweh’s chosen people, despite his own Judaic roots.
10. Marx rejected the topic of morality as a colossal joke, braying like a
mule when people raised it to him.
B. Historic Results of Marxism
Marx’s beliefs caused the following results across the world when applied:
1. Caused over 100 million murders in the 20th century, according to
Professor R.J. Rummel<http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM>.
2. Doomed the economic system of every country it touched, resulting in mass
starvation and radically lowered living standards.
3. Banned and shuttered all churches in every Marxist country except for
official state-mouthpiece pulpits.
4. Tortured and killed millions simply for believing in God.
5. Desecrated and destroyed countless church buildings.
6. Continually used lies and coercion to harness people to communist ways.
7. Turned failed leaders into deified gods.
8. Turned the legislative, executive and justice systems into pawns of
9. Stole countless freedoms from all citizens, sending millions into death
10. Attempted to turn the entire world into a giant slave state by force.
C. Anti-God Details of Marx’s Life
In the beginning, Karl Marx was a devout Christian, but he fell away from these
beliefs after leaving childhood, around 18, according to Wurmbrand in a book
called Marx &
Satan<http://www.amazon.com/Marx-Satan-Richard-Wurmbrand/dp/0891073795> His own
father became concerned as Karl morphed from a happy child into a furious and
violence loving revolutionary.
1. Marx’s Father
Karl Marx had a tempestuous relationship with his father, who seems to have
realized the enormous struggle raging inside young Karl between darkness and
light. He wrote to Karl, “Only if your heart remains pure and beats humanly and
if no demon is able to alienate your heart from better feelings, only then will
I be happy,” according to Wurmbrand.
2. Marx’s Devil Obsessed Friends
Karl Marx closest associates were obsessed with Satan, as opposed to God. These
included Moses Hess, George Jung, Heinreich Heine and Mikhal Bakunin. Wurmband
says these men and others initiated Marx into Satanism. Bakunin wrote this
statement (reminiscent of Marxist Saul Alinsky’s dedication of his book to
The Evil One is the satanic revolt against divine authority, revolt in which we
see the fecund germ of all human emancipations, the revolution. Socialists
recognise each other by the words “In the name of the one to whom a great wrong
has been done.” Satan [is] the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the
emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and
obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and
humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge.
Bakunin, a huge influence on Marx, also says this about the socialist
In this revolution we will have to awaken the Devil in the people, to stir up
the basest passions. Our mission is to destroy, not to edify. The passion of
destruction is a creative passion.
Another fellow socialist Proudon wrote:
We reach knowledge in spite of him, we reach society in spite of him. Every
step forward is a victory in which we overcome the Divine. We reach knowledge
in spite of him, we reach society in spite of him. Every step forward is a
victory in which we overcome the Divine. Come, Satan, slandered by the small
and by kings. God is stupidity and cowardice; God is hypocrisy and falsehood;
God is tyranny and poverty; God is evil. Where humanity bows before an altar,
humanity, the slave of kings and priests, will be condemned… I swear, God, with
my hand stretched out towards the heavens, that you are nothing more than the
executioner of my reason, the sceptre of my conscience… God is essentially
anticivilized, antiliberal, antihuman.
And Heine, whom Marx had a very close and warm relationship with, says this:
I called the devil and he came,
His face with wonder I must scan;
He is not ugly, he is not lame.
He is a delightful, charming man.
3. Marx’s Autobiographical Poetry
Consider the following words Karl wrote in various works regarding Satan. He
stated: “A curtain had fallen. My holy of holies was rent asunder and new gods
had to be installed.”
Writes Wurmbrand of Marx’s biographers’ view of his poems and fables:
There can be very little doubt that those interminable stories were
autobiographical. He had the Devil’s view of the world, and the Devil’s
malignity. Sometimes he seemed to know that he was accomplishing works of evil.
Consider these quotes taken from several poems addressed to Hegel, Marx’s most
Because I discovered the highest,
And because I discovered the deepest through meditation,
I am great like God,
I clothe myself in darkness like Him.
Marx’s love of poetry was turned towards apocalyptic imagery and scenes of
death. For example, in his published poem “Der
(“The Fiddler”), he makes a pact with the Devil:
That art God neither wants nor wists,
It leaps to the brain from Hell’s black mists.
Till heart’s bewitched, till senses reel:
With Satan I have struck my deal.
In another poem, In his poem “The Pale
Thus heaven I’ve forfeited,
I know it full well.
My soul, once true to God,
Is chosen for hell.
Wurmbrand examines the issue of Marx and Satan in great detail. In fact, Marx
was not just a disbeliever in God, but he literally claimed he would take God’s
place. In one poem Marx
With disdain I will throw my gauntlet
Full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant
Whose fall will not stifle my ardour.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious
Through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force,
I will feel equal to the Creator.
Marx also published a poem called Invocation to One in
Despair<http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/marx.htm>? Which contains the
So a god has snatched from me my all
In the curse and rack of destiny.
All his worlds are gone beyond recall!
Nothing but revenge is left to me!
I shall build my throne high overhead,
Cold, tremendous shall its summit be.
Marx also wrote a strange play called
Oulanem<http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/marx.htm> with a chilling
prophecy of Marxism’s future application:
If there is a Something which devours,
I’ll leap within it, though I bring the world to ruins—
The world which bulks between me and the abyss
I will smash to pieces with my enduring curses….
We may have no direct admission by Karl Marx that he was a Satanist. But, if
his poems are a statement of his beliefs, perhaps we do. From one angle, how
could Marx NOT be a devil worshipper when all his acts created the worst, most
ungodly outcomes on a regular basis? The main issue here is Marx was a very
strange, sick and possibly demon-obsessed person who willingly chose to follow
the darkest path known to man. Normally, the worst people are associated with
Satan. With the impact of Marx’s writings we should not follow his ideals, nor
elect leaders who do, either.
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Kelly O’Connell<http://kellysoconnell.com> is an author and attorney. He was
born on the West Coast, raised in Las Vegas, and matriculated from the
University of Oregon. After laboring for the Reformed Church in Galway,
Ireland, he returned to America and attended law school in Virginia, where he
earned a JD and a Master’s degree in Government. He spent a stint working as a
researcher and writer of academic articles at a Miami law school, focusing on
ancient law and society. He has also been employed as a university Speech &
Debate professor. He then returned West and worked as an assistant district
attorney. Kelly is now is a private practitioner with a small law practice in
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