Michael Moore simply looked outside his prejudices for a short time. What
he saw scared him... and this primordial existential fear drove him to set
the stage for what we now see as an all-out anti-democratic, libelous
attack on an elected President.
Like the fabled donkey who found a lion's skin and went around scaring all
the animals, Moore and others in his ideological cohort had gotten
accustomed to telling everyone what to think... comfortable with 'creating
reality' by well-known propaganda techniques... scaring others with their
incessant braying that others mistook for a lion's roar.
But then a real Lion came along, and the Lion knew the difference between
the braying of a jackass and the roar of a Lion.
Extending this fable to current events... other lions gathered 'round this
Lion... and by a democratic process they put him in charge of the whole
country. But the jackasses had spent decades getting inside the
administrative systems and even before the election were getting prepared
to defend themselves and their fraud.
Not to worry. If one looks at the gestalt of current events, Trump is
carefully moving forward... testing individuals, using the system to remove
the decades of slime and shit that have covered a noble and valuable system
(the U.S. Constitution). Wouldn't surprise me if Trump rescinds the
unnecessary 'National Security' directives that have defined United States
policy since 1947. That's what those who voted for him want.
I doubt that Trump qualifies as a Social Darwinist. I think it was Spencer
who came up with the 'survival of the fittest' slogan.
As I recall, Spencer recanted some (but not all) of his early statements in
support of Darwin's hypothesis (yes... I think it's hypothetical, not
theoretical, because there are too many instances where Darwinian claims
are falsified; such as the flagellar motor https://youtu.be/TokXogAzHKU ).
Socialized medicine is truly a 'survival of the fittest' scheme... as shown
by the fiasco over Charlie Gard. Or what I've seen happen to friends here
Useless eaters, (and seriously ill brats like Charlie) are a drain on The
State. Unless, of course, they can pony up huge fees for care that's
supposed to be provided by the 'People's Republic of Big Rock Candy
Mountain'. There's always care for members of the Inner Party.
In general, 'Socialism' practices "survival of the fittest", with The State
ALWAYS taking precedence over people. Of course The State determines what
is or isn't fit. And The State funds itself by asset forfeiture and/or debt
(fiat currency such as the Keynesian system).
Somebody pointed out to Keynes that his ideas might work for a while, would
benefit a few; but, in the long run would fail because the debt would be
Keynes reportedly replied 'in the long run, we'll all dead'.
It's this nihilism, fatalism, death-worship stuff that doesn't fly with
those who've lived in a genuinely free society where one could find work or
start a business rather than line up at the Public trough (where Soylent
Green is available once a week).
Trump reflects the deep truths embedded in the U.S. Constitutional system
and the first Ten Amendments.
True, these values haven't always been actualized... yet they remain the
foundation of what it means to be 'American'... classical
Age-of-Enlightenment Liberalism... the product of thousands of years of
struggle to establish truly Human governmental-societal systems. People
want to go to America because they can still achieve a level of freedom,
often of prosperity, that can't happen in the places from which they come.
Read (or listen to) Murray Rothbard's 'Anatomy of the State'
Note to all 'Frogs' everywhere; Don't give rides to scorpions. If you find
yourself in a pot of water, get out immediately. Look before you leap.
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:16 PM, douglas rankine <
All I am saying is that he was one of the few who predicted that Trump was
going to win, before he did...and he gave his reasons. Whether his reasons
were valid or pleasing or not, isn't the point I was making, he did
something most of the rest of us didn't do. He thought about it and said
it...and was proved right, gives him more street cred than a lot of other
Donald Trump is probably a nice chap, full of bonhomie, hugs and kisses
and looks after his family, wives and children very well. And he obviously
wants to do good for the American people, by saving their jobs and bringing
more jobs home. He wants to make America great again. He also wants people
to understand that if they are going to get fat and lazy, then they wont be
able to depend on the state for health care and sustenance. He is a firm
believer in the social Darwinist principle that that it is the survival of
the fittest, meaning strongest, and not the most flexible. And it isn't
his fault that deregulating industrial practices means that certain large
corporations will use this to remove safety rules, environment rules and
building and fire safety practices. He is also a great believer in using
the law to protect himself and his interests, having involved his lawyers
in over 4000 cases, a number of which included bankruptcies of various
kinds, some of which he won and some of which he lost. Other cases were
fought and lost over building and planning regulations with which his
companies hadn't complied, many of which are still outstanding. He has
created a great deal of employment for slick lawyers and whiz kids. He
appears to want to be friendly with Putin and Russia, and wants to try and
establish better relations with a view to extending trade, such as some of
his Trump Towers in Moscow. He hasn't had the time yet to launch his own
war somewhere in the world, but is allowing the wars with which the US is
already involved to carry on and develop. Personally, I wouldn't know what
he is like, never having met him, so I cannot judge. I see that his press
secretary resigned today...obviously unhappy about the way he has been
treated... I went into Trump Tower once...I was very impressed with the
On 21/07/2017 05:31, Chien Fume wrote:
Michael Moore, like other Progressives, has always been seething with
irrational hatred fueled by uncritical inferences and strident, dogmatic
rhetoric. This wasn't troubling when he focused this hatred on individuals
and groups who openly espoused racism and anti-Constitution ideology. But,
finally, Moore's hatred turned upon the very people who (historically) made
possible the freedom and liberty he enjoys... freedom and liberty to
Douglas Rankin wrote that Moore was 'prescient' regarding Trump's victory.
I can't see any prescience... only a kind of desperate and temporary
acknowledgment of what was actually going on (not what Moore and his fellow
travelers wanted to go on).
Like many others, Moore saw the amazingly huge crowds who were turning up
everywhere Trump went. He also saw the polls (formal and informal)
indicating support across the socioeconomic spectrum. Moore was that Trump
was going to win and got busy as a beaver shaping the rhetorical base
that's currently trying to smear Trump and undo the
democratically-determined 2016 election. Imagine that! Democrats working
their collective asses off to undermine and nullify the democratic process.
To this end, Moore wrote a splendid hate-filled screed informing his cult
followers to get ready for Trump, who he described as a "wretched,
ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full time sociopath".
It matters not at all that nothing in Trump's well-documented life
supports this unfounded claim. Merely saying it makes it true and rings the
bells in the bat-infested belfry of the Progressive collective.
Moore lists 5 reasons for Trump's then-pending success. All of them far
more wretched and ignorant than anything Trump has every proposed or done,
making Michael a better example of a 'dangerous part-time clown and full
time sociopath' than Trump. But that's how Alinsky indoctrinated, spoiled
and selfish Dr. Spock baby boomers in Moore's cohort tend to process their
Moore is a top-shelf filmmaker who, I've heard, made a careful study of Leni
Riefenstahl's films. Michael is also one of the best propagandists since
Goebbels. But he's also a fat, arrogant, wealthy white man... meaning he's
in the same class as the people he hates and blames for all the wrongs of
the world. He joins the strident racists who brazenly declare the necessity
of eliminating 'White People'... showing, again, a strange ignorance of
genetic reality. But Moore's audience applauds when the sign goes up
telling them to do so. Pavlov would be impressed!
Blood is beginning to flow in the streets of America. It's only beginning.
The chicken-killing dogs of the Progressive Democrats have gotten a taste
of this blood, and felt the excitement of the chase.
But there are more licensed hunters in America than in most armies of the
world. A huge majority of this group has gotten too accustomed to living in
genuine freedom... and most of them know what must be done to any dog that
starts to kill chickens.
Unfortunate, for sure. But in this case, it's understandable that the
people who voted for Trump are tending to adopt the ethical principle 'do
unto others what they intend to do to you, before they do it to you'. At
this point, there aren't any other options.
Here's the link to Michael's thing about Trump.