Its the same rats running the same race but its another day.
Hard to get to know, but near impossible to forget.
Steve C. Taylor
On Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:47 PM, Michael Shelton
I am truly sorry if I have offended you in any way.
I dearly appreciate your writing
And read the cryptome list almost every day.The quotes I use are ones that come
mind when I write.The one at the end was from Lenin.
The point I was making is this
that a lot of the struggle for
social change, reform happened already, we have issues today that relate back
to those times,the 60s,without
Knowing any of that stuff there
Is a movement, a bunch of
Demonstrations in the present,
Many of the people involved
don't realise that there were
past events that mirror it today.
That is my whole point,once again I didn't mean to provoke
Or irritate you in any way.
Respectfully, and in that spirit
I remain,Iao On 26 Nov 2015 3:28 pm, "doug" <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
The people...I am not a member of...unless you care to define it...of course.
Can you explain...preferably in your own words, rather than someone elses,
what you mean by the quote below. I do apologise, but really, I am much too
stupid to understand it, and need clarification. Please accept that I am a
hard taskmaster, and please make allowances for it...but...and I do hope that
you won't take offence when I ask you the following question... What do you
mean? In your own words...please? Please accept my apologies for not
understanding a point which you obviously have made which is logical and
coherent to you, but for me, it contains some difficulty due to specificity...
In other words, chum..what the fuck are you talking about...in plain English
With kind regards
On 27/11/2015 01:08, Michael Shelton wrote:
'Those who can't remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
quote from Santayana
Many of those alive today
we're not here in the 1960s,or if
they were they were too young
to have been aware of social and political issues. The cauldron of those times
the world we live in today,and there are many parallels to
today's situations. By not being
aware of the history of those
times, some of the same mistakes are still being made,some of the same battles
are still being fought in
the struggle to end war,only it
seems like the wars never end.
The powers that be have too
many puppet strings in the
willing hands of the military/
To quote another revolutionist;
'What is to be done?'
Loving life! Iao On 26 Nov 2015 14:40, "doug"
Oh! How I remember it well...Mao's Little Red Book. Published when the Peace
in Vietnam movement was reaching its height in the late 1960's early 1970s.
Demonstration after demonstration in London, outside the American Embassy,
causing mayhem, breaking windows, demonstrators threatening to overwhelm US
soldiers who were threatening to shoot demonstrators invading their sacred
ground. Police strategies of containment fucked due to the massive size of the
demonstrations. Harold Wilson, Labour Prime Minister, good old socialist
intellectual, supplying secret logistic and military support to the South
Vietnam fascist government via our cousins across the water, and with CND and
the various Peace in Vietnam movements involved in stopping it all. Women in
Black, via American Mr. Spock of child behavioural fame rather than Star Treck,
rolling marbles and bools, under the feet of Metropolitan Police Horses,
causing them to fall over and get seriously injured. I was there, so was me
missus. No Animal Rights movement then....:-).. All in the name of killing
Vietnamese women and children because they were harbouring the
Vietcong...(today's equivalent of Muslim Terrorists except they didn't get
messages from Allah, but from Ho Chi Min). :-). Ignore a Vietnamese woman and
child at your peril, because they might be working in the rice paddy but they
were perfectly capable of machine gunning you with a Kalashinikov as you passed
by. Tunnels built under US Bases harbouring whole communities of Vietnamese
involved in the war of attrition against the US. How does one bomb an American
air base to bits...the colllateral damage would be far too much...Schools and
hospitals used as cover for the Vietcong, as the terrorists were called at the
When, all of a sudden, along comes the Maoist faction (remember, I was a good
young communist at the time, knew my factions, see good soldier shwieck)
see url:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Soldier_%C5%A0vejk ),
shouting slogans in complete unison, about the wonderful Red Gaurds and
quoting romantic stuff about flowers and such like, from the "Little Red Book".
Being a curious kind of person, of course I was intrigued with this new
political phenomenon. As a hardened member of the demonstration faculty of the
amateur opposition, for which I received enormous sums of Soviet
gold...according to the Conservative Party at the time, I was most interested.
(Oh! How I dreamed of how I would spend all that Soviet gold in the land of
rent-a-mob...never got a fucking penny....promises, promises, promisses,
typical political crap). They turned up at demonstrations in London, about
600 of them on occasion, and, how disciplined they were, with their Maoist caps
and coolie garb and holding up a copy of the little red book, shouting the
appropriate slogans). One cannot have a decent demonstration without carefully
thought out slogans.
Meanwhile, in China, the Red Gaurds were forcing the old establisment of
professors and academics out of their ivory towers and on to the fields to mix
with the peasants and gather in the harvest,without the money. Communist
equality of opportunity knew no bounds in Mao's World, tanks on Tianamen
Square...forget it. Removing the academics had its consequencies of course.
Life became simple, peasant oriented. The land and its explotation was all
important, none of this chemical Monsanto shit.
Campaigns such as,... Birds eat the wheat and other grains sown... so a
campaign was launched by the Communist Party, to eradicate birds...all the
peasants in the countryside went about massacring the birds...It worked...for
the first year...but then came a plethora of insects...Shit!!! Now, the insects
gobbled up the harvest. Decentralisation was another ploy. We must move the
casting of iron and metal into the countryside, so that the peasants...and the
peasants were very important under Mao.., after all, they put him into power
and, through the Long March, they destroyed Chian Ki Shek as leader of the
Chinese, and freed the peasants from slavery and the control of the
bourgeousis...and American interference...no mean feat.
see url: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Kai-shek
By the way, the Long March was a great achievement, and caused a lot of deaths
and suffering, but took the Chinese out of one form of slavery into another,
and progress always comes at a cost. Where would the Chinese be today if it
wasn't for Ma Tse Dung... A real pain in the US's butt. Nowadays, they have a
middle class, which is greater than the population of the United Kingdom.
And, of course,due to the wonders of the internet...Mao's Little Red Book can
be accessed at url: