Tx for the info...coderman. It is nice and very interesting too, to get a "hands on view" of events at Hanford. The web can be very distant at times and living in an environment can be so different in reality than virtually. I was looking at the ideal criteria used for putting the site there rather than anywhere else...didn't at all mention the facts and the situation you have presented here. Still, there was a war on and a race between the US and Germany to produce the first weapons of mass destruction. And most of us are much the wiser in hindsight. Interesting to note, that for all the laws and constitutions we have, the rights are always guaranteed in the abstract, whilst the duties are qualified by class. It is left to the courts to construe the meanings of the words and phrases, and though they always err on the side of the citizen, the legal constructions really depend on how high up the hierarchy the judges are, and what connections they have in financial and monetary terms...though that doesn't prevent them from having an independent personal opinion, of course. Oh! I forgot..."The Buck stops here"...didn't somebody famous once say...:-). Another one of those myths and legends for which our advanced society abounds. The Hanford url I gave, by the way, represents a history of the development of the site and the aftermath, according to the wiki contributors and editors, and of course is not a definitive history. Thank you for the urls. I will work my way through them with interest. ATB Dougie P.S. How about your genetic telephathic capabilities...:-). -----Original Message----- From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of coderman Sent: 09 March 2015 20:32 To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cryptome] Re: Manhattan Project: Fucked up our Future On 3/9/15, Douglas Rankine <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > ... point your nose to the following url: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site i grew up next to rocky flats plant while it was active, and was there at the start of the decommissioning. what people didn't understand then, is that the winds racing down the foothills across the flats and into adjacent neighborhoods was contaminated with plutonium released during fires and other unanticipated releases (leaking waste storage, etc.) the biggest hazard to communities was not direct exposure during those brief few fires where most of the plutonium escaped into the environment. it was afterwards, for decades, as the contamination deposited into the soil gets stirred up by wind and re-released into the air affecting communities down wind. another revelation was the different effects of plutonium exposure in children and young adults vs. adults. traditionally such radiation is viewed like smoking - a lung cancer danger due to particulates in the lungs. it was later discovered that the chemistry of plutonium in a growing body made previously "safe" level of fine contamination significantly more detrimental as it was incorporated into the calcium dense parts of the body like bones and liver. these are the effects which afflict me most - loss of liver function and a slew of odd immune disorders resulting from B-cell lymphocyte deficiency. the most frustrating aspect of the situation is the absolute immunity enjoyed by egregious and callous disregard for law and nature. "A September 11th Catastrophe You've Probably Never Heard About" - https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/09/a-september-11th-catastrophe-youve-probably-never-heard-about/261959/ ''' The Grand Jury was specifically advised by an Assistant U.S. Attorney that the United States Supreme Court had determined in Train v. COPIRG, 426 U.S.1 that no Federal law (specifically the Clean Water Act) prohibits DOE, Rockwell, or EGG from dumping radioactive wastes or other radioactive material directly into Standley Lake, the Great Western Reservoir, the South Platte, or any other river or tributary of the United States. [ ^- UNTOUCHABLE] ... The pervasive nature of the illegal practices discussed in this report may leave the Court wondering how such extensive, illegal conduct could have continued for such a lengthy period of time. Four factors provide a substantial explanation of how these events occurred: (a) DOE managed the Plant with an attitude of indifference toward environmental laws; (b) DOE actively participated in and directed a conscious and ongoing effort to evade the application of certain environmental laws to the Plant; (c) the Colorado Department of Health ("CDH") and EPA were lax and ineffective in attempting to enforce environmental laws and regulations at the Plant; and (d) Rockwell and it's successor (EG&G) - with the apparent knowledge of DOE - have excused their illegal conduct by asserting that they cannot operate the Plant without violating one or more environmental laws. " - http://www.constitution.org/jury/gj/rocky_flats/rocky-flats-grand-jury-report.htm . . . it's not all for naught, however, as my mutant power of ungodly coding capability continues to sustain my quest for justice where the courts have failed us. *grin* ----- No virus found in this message. 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