It's communism. Except instead of worshiping some ideal system of relations, they celebrate a cruel and vicious god. Question of the day: can these people outdo the communists? Can they outdo Rwanda? Can they do it? On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > I am not a supporter of any state, or political system, or any religion > and as close to being a pacifist as one can be without being one. I don't > support terrorism either, whether it be by a so called liberation or > revolutionary organisation, or by a nation state. Having said that, and > after reading the confidential Israeli Project Report of 2009, available on > Cryptom > *e. * see url: > > *2014-1040.pdf > <http://cryptome.org/2014/07/il-global-language-dictionary.pdf> * > > I did some research on Hamas and where they came from and what they > believe in and what actions they have taken since coming to power in Gaza. > Their history is that they developed out of the Muslim Brotherhood in > Egypt, many, many decades ago. The same group which was recently deposed > from power in a military coup organised by the Egyptian armed forces, after > their elected leader was arrested for advocating and organising violent > methods to spread the cause of the Brotherhood, whilst state President. > Hamas advocated a policy in the past which they have yet to revoke, which > says that Jews are the lowest scum on the planet and to be removed from > their lands and that Israel should not be recognised as a state. You can > look it up on the web if you don't believe me... > > see url: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Covenant > > And, I have to say that I am not surprised that Israel are calling up > their reservists and preparing to attack Gaza again, if not occupy it. > They have already resumed returning fire after Hamas fired rockets at them > killing a 4 year old boy. I don't know what one does to stop these rockets > being fired on the civilian population of Israel willy nilly and I don't > know what I would do if someone tried to take my home away from me with no > legal redress for me to get it returned. I do know how I would feel being > told that I had to get out of my house or area because it is going to be > targetted by bombs and rockets though...full of resentment, and I dare say, > hatred towards the perpetrators; to say the least. Hitler thought that he > could get the British people to submit to him by attempting to bomb London > and other major cities out of existence. He thought that they would blame > and turn on Churchill...didn't work of course...doesn't work like that. > Hitler wasn't the first to think that...and he obviously isn't the last. > The USA tried it in Vietnam. > > The Middle East is becoming a right old mess, with masses of people being > murdered, raped, abused, tortured, captured, enslaved, made homeless and > countryless. The "western" powers have really helped screw things up too, > and have to take their share of the blame. Now they don't know what to do, > except a bit more bombing and violence, and supplying arms, logistics and > intelligence to people who were once enemies and now being considered as > friends...or the lessers of two evils...or the evils of two lessers. They > are sending in some humanitarian aid, peanuts of course, compared to the > massive expenditure on war materials over the last 15 years. As Christian > countries we don't want to welcome even Christian refugees from the Middle > East to our countries, even though our Christian governments are a large > part of the problem. > > I don't understand why cutting off someone's head whilst they are > handcuffed and still alive, filming it, putting it on youtube and boasting > about what a great achievement it is, and saying how brave and > revolutionary they are; or how such an act will get me to support Islam, or > Moslem philosophy, or how it is supposed to make me either fear them, or > make me fall in love with their religion and adopt their belief systems > either. To think that some of these extremists were educated and lived in > the UK for most of their lives, they didn't starve, they have decent > homes...there may have been discrimination at some point in their lives, > but surely the UK wasn't that bad. There is some kind of sick and faulty > logic there. I know that there are some nasty practices and theories > described in the Christian Bible and know about the Crusades of early > Christianity, and I assume that there must be similar descriptions in the > Koran. Those books are not the only sources of inspiration or ideas or > imagination in the world, and never have been. > > I don't understand why, either, those rich Arab States such as Qatar and > Saudi Arabia, Bahrain or Iran are not sending lots of humanitarian aid to > Gaza and encouraging peace, helping it to rebuild instead of supporting the > likes of Hamas, whilst doing little or nothing to help the citizens of > Palestine. Arabs have lived in the Middle East since time immemorium, for > at least 3000 years. The Jewish religion has been around for 2500 years > and the Christian religion for 2000 years and the Muslim religion for 1600 > years. There have been many mass migrations into and out of the Middle East > in that time. Is it a struggle for dominance, for ownership of land and > resources between Muslim and Jew, is it religion, is it beliefs and if so, > is this really the best, or the only way to go about it. Huge sums are > being spent on armaments for the region which are then supplied by the U.S. > and the U.K. and other European countries, to various countries, such as > Egypt and Israel, and Saudi Arabia and Qatar, whilst huge amounts are spent > by the Russians and the Chinese on the likes of Iran. The terrorists > appear to get supplied by everyone, one way or another. > > I am old enough to remember the IRA and Protestant terrorist > organisations in Northern Ireland using bombings, kidnappings, > kneecapping, torture and other forms of violence to punish or keep certain > dissenting sections of the population in check, self-policing they called > it, showing their might and strength. They also raised money from > businesses by using protection rackets of various kinds, as well as > fund-raising from gullible people and states abroad. The money was used to > buy arms from the likes of Libya and through back doors from some of the > main arms manufacturers. And I remember too, the bombings in London, I was > living and studying there at the time. Though the explosions were > frightening, they didn't change my mind or stop me from carrying on as I > have always done. In fact they made me more determined, that the peaceful > protest is and always will be the best way to progress and move society > forward. Eventually, the IRA and the Protestant groups screwed the nut, > realised that they were on a hiding to nothing and negotiated a ceasefire > and eventually, a peace agreement and destroyed their weapons and adopted > the political route. People are now a lot better off, alive and kicking, > even though the economy has slowed down a lot. > > It is no use, it seems to me to allow Gaza to have a free right to > import what it likes, when even the cement given by the Israelis for > building and rebuilding homes and other facilities is used to build > tunnels, where the terrorists can move banned goods such as armaments and > hide and launch attacks on Israel, yet the ordinary people cannot get > access to them for protection from the bombings by Israel. Elected or not, > Hamas is a terrorist organisation, in my mind, and being elected does not > mean that terrorist methods should be used to subdue the population, or to > attack another state just because they are different and don't want to > recognise their existence. > > The Vietnamese used tunnels to protect their populations and industries > when they were fighting against a foreign state occupying their land and > which was attempting to take it over permanently, for the reason of killing > off the communists and proving the "Domino Theory". In fact there were > tunnels under Da Nang Air Base with quite a sizable community producing > goods to help their war effort, unsuspected by the USA. Wouldn't happen > nowadays, of course, such projects are well known around the world, the > element of surprise has gone, and all sorts of technology can be used to > find out where the tunnels are, and attacks have to come from somewhere. > In Gaza there are tunnels which not only bring in goods which break the > blockade, but penetrate into Israeli territory, where attacks are made on > the civilian population. > > It's a crazy ole world right enough... > ATB > Dougie. > >