[cryptome] Re: Looks like DHS sabotaged a FOIA request on Cryptome

  • From: douglas rankine <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 22:39:35 +0000

Sometimes, a nicely worded letter to the powers that be at the FBI, (or other co-responding organisation) i.e. to those who deal with the problem, pointing out their error, in a most helpful way, and offering to help, and asking why you have found that the information is available elsewhere and why didn't they know about it, took account of it, or develop efficient systems which work on behalf of the taxpayer and requesters...or, in the alternative, would they have any objection to you and other researchers, helping them by working alongside them, in a purely voluntary way, by informing them of where the sources are. In this way, you and they would be helping the citizens and the organisations which represent the people and the state, by making openness and transparancy much cheaper and more informative to the citizenry in the long run, 1which is only, after all, fulfilling the President and Congresses wish to inform the people...blah! blah! blah! Without being recognisably obsequious, of course...:-) .
If you decide to adopt that approach, please let me know, via this mailing list, how you have got on...:-) .
With kind regards,

On 05/02/2016 21:11, Michael Best wrote:

That's nothing as far as BS rejections go for not being specific enough about the records requested. I requested a FBI from FBI, gave them the name and number of it... and they said it wasn't enough to go on.

File was in NARA as it turned out, but still. WTF, FBI?

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Michael Best <themikebest@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:themikebest@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    The explanation I finally found buried in there was that the
    request was too broad, and that I should specify the subject
    matter, a time period and a location. I mean, the request
    basically did all three of those so the rejection was completely
    wrong, but what they cited exists... it's just kinda like trying
    to cite justifiable homicide law for torturing someone. It exists,
    but doesn't apply.

    Unfortunately because of the way it was buried, it took me until
    after the appeal period had passed so I can't appeal. I'll have to
    file a fresh FOIA with them and be more vigilant, because
    transparency can suck it I guess.

    On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:58 PM, douglas rankine
    <mailto:douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Hi Mike,
        Do they have the right to close an FOIA request arbitrarily,
        without a reason?  If so, do you know where such a regulation
        or law is, or where it could be found...or is it an
        administrative procedure.  Is it possible for you to ask them
        to point your nose to the provision in law which grants them
        this right?

        On 05/02/2016 20:52, Michael Best wrote:
        I filed a FOIA request about Cryptome with DHS a while back:

            Any records relating to Cryptome, also known by its web
            address of Cryptome.org, which posts pictures of
            sensitive sites and potential security holes as described
            by the New York Times.


        Sent through MuckRock on December 1, acknowledged on December
        2. Also closed on December 2, according to the DHS FOIA
        website. No notification or explanation provided, not through
        MuckRock or to me directly. I say to me directly because they
        also closed another FOIA of mine without explanation,
        insisting on opening a new one when I tried to follow up
        within the 30 days.

        http://www.dhs.gov/foia-status FOIA # *2016-HQFO-00099*

        Weird, right?

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