[cryptome] Re: Hacking for China - ABC Lateline 22/07/2013

  • From: In Harms Way <11414150173@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:40:30 +0300


Jeremy Compton wrote, On 23/07/2013 14:44:
> Interesting, l think this will likely explain some thing incidents but
> how about the more professional attacks.
> Formerly these attackers use to attack enemies of china in aid of
> nationalism, but now are defending foreign companies as advisors.
> Hacking for China Videoclip link
> http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2013/s3808606.htm
> Australian Broadcasting Corporation
> Broadcast: 22/07/2013
> Reporter: Stephen McDonell
> Young Chinese cyber hackers are attacking organisations that they
> believe are enemies of China as a way of demonstrating their national
> pride.
>     Transcript
> STEVE CANNANE, PRESENTER: As the cyber war between China and the
> United States escalates, some hackers are switching sides from attack
> to defence.
> One of China's leading hackers, Lao Ying, is now working for Western
> multinationals, helping them protect their computer systems.
> He used to attack American targets in the name of Chinese patriotism,
> although it's not clear if he ever worked directly with the Chinese
> Government.
> Both the US and Chinese governments have accused each other of
> targeting their respective key institutions, but one of the biggest
> threats still comes from those working outside the system.
> China correspondent Stephen McDonell reports from Beijing.
> STEPHEN MCDONELL, REPORTER: Lao Ying is a Chinese hacker. In fact,
> he's seen as something of a godfather of patriotic hackers. For love
> of country, he and his friends have targeted the governments of the
> United States and Taiwan, human rights groups and anyone who they
> believed was humiliating their country.
> 'EAGLE', CHINESE HACKER (voiceover translation): I needed a place to
> release the rebellion I developed as a teenager and to show myself
> off. We thought our government was weak and we wanted to express
> ourselves as young men.
> STEPHEN MCDONELL: Lao Ying, meaning 'Eagle', isn't his real name, and
> we interviewed him on the condition that we use his title in
> cyberspace. These days he works for a major Western multinational
> computer company as well as other clients, putting his old skills to
> work to protect against attacks.
> But at one time, as head of the Eagle Union, he led a team of
> so-called red hackers who were responsible for major security breaches.
> 'EAGLE' (voiceover translation): We chose targets which were easy to
> attack and would attract media attention. We would prefer officials or
> government websites, but really, it all depended on whether the
> hosting server had vulnerabilities or not.
> STEPHEN MCDONELL: Now many of the old hacking crew are employed at
> Eagle's cyber security firm. He won't confirm whether in the old days
> they ever worked with Chinese Government officials to target the
> country's enemies. But he does say that a true hacker should be
> independent of government.
> We enter a room protected by a face scan security lock. This is where
> these hackers-turned-advisors keep their most serious gear. Here,
> Eagle shows us a real-time hacking attack map of the world. This
> technology tracks an attack from one IP address to another. And
> there's a breach taking place in Melbourne even as we watch. Eagle
> doesn't see any contradiction in now working with the police to help
> track down other hackers.
> 'EAGLE' (voiceover translation): If a former criminal works for the
> police, does he become the enemy of other criminals? Well I never
> think of hacking as being in opposition to cyber police. In fact, the
> two are complementary. Hackers are young people who are good at
> discovering and raising problems.
> STEPHEN MCDONELL: There do seem to be some pretty confused rationales
> at play here. Eagle says that the anger which drove him to becoming a
> hacker in the first place stemmed from the frustrations of growing up
> in China, including being a one-child policy only child. But if he
> really blames China for his anger, then why target China's enemies
> with his hacking? Shouldn't it be the other way round? Well Eagle in
> part acknowledges these inconsistencies and blames them at least a
> little bit on immaturity.
> 'EAGLE' (voiceover translation): While we attack American websites, we
> may still eat McDonald's, drink Coca-Cola and watch Hollywood movies.
> STEPHEN MCDONELL: One thing's for certain: Eagle and his security team
> are now in demand. This is a problem not going away in a hurry. So who
> better to help protect you than the very same geeky invaders who were
> once on the attack?
> Stephen McDonell, Lateline.

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