[cryptome] Re: GCHQ Spying On USA Citizens

  • From: John Young <jya@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 18:26:56 -0400

With US and China initiating cybersecurity WTFs, based on the WMD
non-proliferation tail-chasing rigamarole, this portends continuing
pies-in-the-face diminishment of privacy and civil liberties for the
immortal glory of national security Redtube warfare. Cyber vulgarities
now satiated through comically-buffoonish privacy policies and
HTTPS qua Tor qua never-ending security upgrades will be boiled
like a barking frog into inedible gristle except to those with urgent
clearance to hop from the hot pot into the fire.

With Obama now wearing on his wrist a personal tracking device
and App-Goog-le urging on everyone more silently dossiering wearables,
soon it will be fashionable luxury, and poorhouse necessity, to accept our
destiny as selfie-spying antennas whereever we flee to escape desktop
despot tyranny for DIY wi-fi opiates.

Imagine being wi-fried with every croaker on cooktop planet until Sol
goes dark. At that moment black spying will black hole selfcide.

At 02:21 PM 9/26/2015, you wrote:

Dear John,
Everything that GCHQ does in the UK is perfectly lawful because it is proportional, reasonable and the tools of surveillance are given a wide scope in law, and the privacy of the citizens are respected, including my most humble self. There is excellent oversight via the Security and Intelligence Committee which is appointed by the prime minister and parliament to be independent and thorough, notwithstanding its most recent Chairman, Lord Rifkind, a most respected, experienced and honorable Scot, with a wide knowledge of terrorism, intelligence and secrey, and who is experienced in lecturing us all in how secure and lawful he was and interested in protecting our human and citizen rights; offering to sell his influence to foreign countries who approached him in the guise of newspaper reporters...or was it the other way about...one never knows these days... :-).

However, as the article suggests, this kind of activity may not lawful in the USA, as a warrant or some kind of lawful permission is required under the Constitution. If the NSA facilities are being used by GCHQ and the information is being shared.

The GCHQ is quite adamant that it does not break UK or US law in terms of surveillance, as the British people are honorable, respect democracy and non-interference in the affairs of other nations. And that there is only lawful and legal co-operation with the USA and the rest of five eyes when it comes to sharing information.

Does anyone know if the NSA, if it is true that it is allowing GCHQ to use its facilities legally or illegally, is either sharing the information, or has some kind of filter on tap to prevent it, or its operatives, or associated organisations from looking at the information...

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