[cryptome] Re: Fwd: has there ever been a FOIA request leading to initiation of criminal prosecution against the requestor?

  • From: Peter M Howell <300cba@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 09:11:00 +0300

Hi Dougie

It's a complex story that involves DARPA in dark ways - as expected.

I spent some time unraveling the knots but mostly it flows back to
Poindexter. His central idea was that gov should have access to all data
and law abiding citizens should submit - if they had nothing to hide !

The idea that Jim Bell developed was based earlier academic musings by
others, and in an odd way it seemed that he was 'encouraged ' to face off
with Gov. Smart and slightly anti Gov surveillance and very clearly
outraged at Gov omnipotence, political scumbaggery and the general
unreasonable empowerment of 'lesser' individuals by Gov regs and the
manipulation of the law. He became or was slightly obsessed with the
growing accretion of power that security and law enforcement took on even
in day to day interactions with the pubic. His essays were a mind
experiment with a touch of bravado. But he was warned when the IRS started
chasing him in 1997... It seems illogical that he would provoke Gov.

Declan McCullagh, the writer that publicized Jim Bel's Assassination
Politics essays , is another intriguing character in this *Monty Python*
opera. He was vaguely associated with cypherpunk event reporting before Jim
Bell [ see Carl Johnson v DoJ circa 1999 ] He was eventually a witness in
the Jim Bell trial in 2001 as 'author of the Wired article about
Assasination Politics'. But the DoJ prosecutor never attacked him as
expected as it became apparent that nobody was going down with Jim Bell,
conspiracy was not the issue, the DoJ wanted to keep the act of defiance
and creation of 'bad ideas' focused as being sufficient to get 'the man' on
your back..

Bell may have been the part creator of the concept, he wrote: ''A few
months ago, I had a truly and quite literally "revolutionary" idea, and I
jokingly called it "Assassination Politics", which clearly implied that
this was no political philosophy , more a game that a smart MIT guy could
play - but it was McCullagh that repurposed the essays into a slightly
shocking article in the public domain using a fairly mainstream magazine.

It might be argued that Declan McCullagh was the 'publicist' that turned a
novelty into a dark and very troubling prospect for Governments world-wide.
But why was it promoted seemingly with the Wired legal team asleep at the
wheel. It was a clear provocation and an incentive to anarchists
everywhere, the end product was contract killing on the internet of anyone
that disagreed with one's views.

Without the Wired magazine articles, where Bell was described in descending
order of appeal, as an: 'Internet essayist' recipient of an award from
Wired, then, one of the Internet's ''most famous essayists"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell#cite_note-gaydeath-3> Then later
as a ''crypto anarchist'' and finally as "the world's most notorious
crypto-convict'', would there have been antyhing but an IRS prosecution of
a slightly maddened intellectual? This remodelling of Jim Bell's public
persona may have been editorial 'distancing' but it was all done and dusted
in several months of 2000/20001 .
Truly an hero to zero event and Admiral Poindexter was no doubt watching
..He reminds me of the mad reformed Nazi Doctor in *How I learned to stop
worrying and Love the Bomb*]

The attached pdf ''so say goodnight Joshua'' is a fair enough appraisal of
the life and times of Jim Bell circa 2001..

There is also a quasi 'book' published 2010.. Jim Bell was incarcerated for
putting all the pieces together - using charges created to get a result.

Jim was released in 2009 and rearrested for 'harassing federal agents' that
were watching him ! Imprisoned again and ultimately released in 2012.


So Gov has big data and uses everything from twitter to twaddle to analysis
and assess the potential for assassination probably using this stuff to
determine good entry points to start conflicts or join in with
Geo-political gains in mind. But none of the data mining gives the same
point action result that the concept of anonymous cash for assassination

The future is troubling, because we cannot escape the past.


ps Not sure that Bell has a patentable /commercial idea but time will tell
and would that not be quite the turnaround.. lol

On 6 Jun 2015 20:16, "Douglas Rankine" <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Peter,

I just found the link to the futures exchange project and Poindexter and
co and a couple of Senators...It was called PAM...crazy, stupid and
dangerous...I think it is called “blue sky” thinking... J.
Unbelievable...Hitler didn’t die, he just metamorphosed...

See url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_Analysis_Market



*From:* cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Peter M Howell
*Sent:* 05 June 2015 17:49
*To:* cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [cryptome] Re: Fwd: has there ever been a FOIA request leading
to initiation of criminal prosecution against the requestor?

Yes. And he was lauded by Wired for innovative thinking. Nothing deceptive
nor was he advocating a new political reality, but it shre scared the heck
out of someone..

Think Adm.Poindexter later repurposed the concept into a middle east
futures exchange to include the likelihood of unfriendly leaders becoming
historical footnotes.. that lasted about 48 hours until congress realized
.. a possible response was a similar exchange / 'life auction' site might
include usa leaders.. Poindexter became unemployed for a while. James
Dalton Bell -aka jim Bell- was incarcerated in a max security black site
in solitary for 12 years on petty charges.

Life's a bitch if you are not a retired Admiral.


On 5 Jun 2015 02:44, "Douglas Rankine" <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Dear coderman and PMH,,

Not a lot changes in “disruption strategies” then, they are just bigger
and have better technologies. The prejudices remain the same, the violent
interventions they organised, provoking the stupid into using violence and
other illegal methods. They were called provocations in my day, organised
by paid state agents called agent provocateurs, (with a smattering of
amateur loyal volunteers). It has always been the way, ever since the
development and establishment of rulers and ruled. People had to be picked
on, examples made.

When human societies got big enough to organise the division of labour in
tribal and feudal structures, they operated “watch and ward”, and I dare
say that it is little different today and will be little different
tomorrow. One can read in the UK declassified public records, reports from
secret police agents, all about the comings and goings of British and US
communists and labour and socialist reporters, and other “persons of
interest” and the prejudices of the state agents who watched them as they
left and returned to the country from the Soviet Union, and various other
countries considered extremist or a threat to the British state. To be
fair, before the 2nd World War, the “fifth column” the fascist parties
and leaderships were also kept under surveillance. Members of the ruling
circles were generally left to themselves, although there were a few
exceptions. We are all equal under the eyes of the state... J. Law for
them and order for you... J.



P.S. Was that the Jim Bell who wrote that piece of literary fiction called
“Assassination Politics” ?

*From:* cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
Behalf Of *Peter M Howell
*Sent:* 04 June 2015 13:22
*To:* cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [cryptome] Re: Fwd: has there ever been a FOIA request leading
to initiation of criminal prosecution against the requestor?

Lots in cryptome archives re Jim Bell, all of which stinks to this
day..much of which relates to FIO activities Jim initiated in response to
FBI and Homeland security overreach.


On 4 June 2015 at 05:08, coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 5/29/15, coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
i would like to know if anyone is aware of past incidents where a FOIA
request results in a law enforcement agency initiating (accelerating?)
criminal action against the requesting individual...

thanks to everyone for the responses.

someone else pointed out FBI "disruption strategies"[0] which may
appear to be investigation oriented but in fact are merely denial of
service attacks.

i created a new FOIA for this category of operation[1] and will see
what turns up...

best regards,

0. "UNLEASHED AND UNACCOUNTABLE - The FBI’s Unchecked Abuse of Authority"
see page 18, chapter 3, 'Innocent Victims of Aggressive Investigation
and Surveillance'

1. "FederalDisruption"


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