Hi Peter,
I just found the link to the futures exchange project and Poindexter and co and
a couple of Senators...It was called PAM...crazy, stupid and dangerous...I
think it is called “blue sky” thinking... J. Unbelievable...Hitler didn’t die,
he just metamorphosed...
See url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_Analysis_Market
ATB
Dougie.
From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Peter M Howell
Sent: 05 June 2015 17:49
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Re: Fwd: has there ever been a FOIA request leading to
initiation of criminal prosecution against the requestor?
Yes. And he was lauded by Wired for innovative thinking. Nothing deceptive nor
was he advocating a new political reality, but it shre scared the heck out of
someone..
Think Adm.Poindexter later repurposed the concept into a middle east futures
exchange to include the likelihood of unfriendly leaders becoming historical
footnotes.. that lasted about 48 hours until congress realized .. a possible
response was a similar exchange / 'life auction' site might include usa
leaders.. Poindexter became unemployed for a while. James Dalton Bell -aka jim
Bell- was incarcerated in a max security black site in solitary for 12 years
on petty charges.
Life's a bitch if you are not a retired Admiral.
Pmh
On 5 Jun 2015 02:44, "Douglas Rankine" <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear coderman and PMH,,
Not a lot changes in “disruption strategies” then, they are just bigger and
have better technologies. The prejudices remain the same, the violent
interventions they organised, provoking the stupid into using violence and
other illegal methods. They were called provocations in my day, organised by
paid state agents called agent provocateurs, (with a smattering of amateur
loyal volunteers). It has always been the way, ever since the development and
establishment of rulers and ruled. People had to be picked on, examples made.
When human societies got big enough to organise the division of labour in
tribal and feudal structures, they operated “watch and ward”, and I dare say
that it is little different today and will be little different tomorrow. One
can read in the UK declassified public records, reports from secret police
agents, all about the comings and goings of British and US communists and
labour and socialist reporters, and other “persons of interest” and the
prejudices of the state agents who watched them as they left and returned to
the country from the Soviet Union, and various other countries considered
extremist or a threat to the British state. To be fair, before the 2nd World
War, the “fifth column” the fascist parties and leaderships were also kept
under surveillance. Members of the ruling circles were generally left to
themselves, although there were a few exceptions. We are all equal under the
eyes of the state... J. Law for them and order for you... J.
ATB
Dougie.
P.S. Was that the Jim Bell who wrote that piece of literary fiction called
“Assassination Politics” ?
From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Peter M Howell
Sent: 04 June 2015 13:22
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Re: Fwd: has there ever been a FOIA request leading to
initiation of criminal prosecution against the requestor?
Lots in cryptome archives re Jim Bell, all of which stinks to this day..much of
which relates to FIO activities Jim initiated in response to FBI and Homeland
security overreach.
PMH
On 4 June 2015 at 05:08, coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 5/29/15, coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
i would like to know if anyone is aware of past incidents where a FOIA
request results in a law enforcement agency initiating (accelerating?)
criminal action against the requesting individual...
