[cryptome] Re: Fwd: has there ever been a FOIA request leading to initiation of criminal prosecution against the requestor?

  • From: "Douglas Rankine" <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 20:52:22 +0100

I read the book some time back and thought that it was a brilliant piece of
literary fiction...He should have got the Nobel Prize for Literature, rather
than be the subject of condemnation by the state. The work was original, well
thought out and a slamming indictment and exposure of the hypocrisy of the US
ruling circles at the time. He certainly did make the shit hit the fan
amongst the powers that be, exposing dual standards, and he suffered the
consequences of it. I see that he is now out and about and alive and kicking,
rejoined the cypherpunks list and come up with a new invention which he is in
the process of patenting.

See url:
https://cpunks.wordpress.com/2013/09/20/jim-bell-re-subscribed-to-the-cypherpunks-list/

ATB

Dougie.

P.S. Assassination Politics is available on url: http://cryptome.org/ap.htm

P.P.S. I see that New York State is issuing licenses for trading in Bitcoin.
Presumably trading in Bitcoin without a license will become unlawful...if so,
that is a turnaround... J.

see url: http://cryptome.org/2015/06/nys-bitlicense.pdf

From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Peter M Howell
Sent: 05 June 2015 17:49
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Re: Fwd: has there ever been a FOIA request leading to
initiation of criminal prosecution against the requestor?

Yes. And he was lauded by Wired for innovative thinking. Nothing deceptive nor
was he advocating a new political reality, but it shre scared the heck out of
someone..

Think Adm.Poindexter later repurposed the concept into a middle east futures
exchange to include the likelihood of unfriendly leaders becoming historical
footnotes.. that lasted about 48 hours until congress realized .. a possible
response was a similar exchange / 'life auction' site might include usa
leaders.. Poindexter became unemployed for a while. James Dalton Bell -aka jim
Bell- was incarcerated in a max security black site in solitary for 12 years
on petty charges.

Life's a bitch if you are not a retired Admiral.

Pmh

On 5 Jun 2015 02:44, "Douglas Rankine" <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear coderman and PMH,



Not a lot changes in “disruption strategies” then, they are just bigger and
have better technologies. The prejudices remain the same, the violent
interventions they organised, provoking the stupid into using violence and
other illegal methods. They were called provocations in my day, organised by
paid state agents called agent provocateurs, (with a smattering of amateur
loyal volunteers). It has always been the way, ever since the development and
establishment of rulers and ruled. People had to be picked on, examples made.



When human societies got big enough to organise the division of labour in
tribal and feudal structures, they operated “watch and ward”, and I dare say
that it is little different today and will be little different tomorrow. One
can read in the UK declassified public records, reports from secret police
agents, all about the comings and goings of British and US communists and
labour and socialist reporters, and other “persons of interest” and the
prejudices of the state agents who watched them as they left and returned to
the country from the Soviet Union, and various other countries considered
extremist or a threat to the British state. To be fair, before the 2nd World
War, the “fifth column” the fascist parties and leaderships were also kept
under surveillance. Members of the ruling circles were generally left to
themselves, although there were a few exceptions. We are all equal under the
eyes of the state... J. Law for them and order for you... J.

ATB

Dougie.

P.S. Was that the Jim Bell who wrote that piece of literary fiction called
“Assassination Politics” ?





From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Peter M Howell
Sent: 04 June 2015 13:22
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Re: Fwd: has there ever been a FOIA request leading to
initiation of criminal prosecution against the requestor?



Lots in cryptome archives re Jim Bell, all of which stinks to this day..much of
which relates to FIO activities Jim initiated in response to FBI and Homeland
security overreach.

PMH



On 4 June 2015 at 05:08, coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 5/29/15, coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

i would like to know if anyone is aware of past incidents where a FOIA
request results in a law enforcement agency initiating (accelerating?)
criminal action against the requesting individual...

thanks to everyone for the responses.

someone else pointed out FBI "disruption strategies"[0] which may
appear to be investigation oriented but in fact are merely denial of
service attacks.

i created a new FOIA for this category of operation[1] and will see
what turns up...

best regards,


0. "UNLEASHED AND UNACCOUNTABLE - The FBI’s Unchecked Abuse of Authority"
-
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/unleashed-and-unaccountable-fbi-report.pdf
see page 18, chapter 3, 'Innocent Victims of Aggressive Investigation
and Surveillance'

1. "FederalDisruption"
-
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/federaldisruption-18313/



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