[cryptome] Re: Fwd: has there ever been a FOIA request leading to initiation of criminal prosecution against the requestor?

  • From: Peter M Howell <300cba@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 19:49:10 +0300

Yes. And he was lauded by Wired for innovative thinking. Nothing deceptive
nor was he advocating a new political reality, but it shre scared the heck
out of someone..

Think Adm.Poindexter later repurposed the concept into a middle east
futures exchange to include the likelihood of unfriendly leaders becoming
historical footnotes.. that lasted about 48 hours until congress realized
.. a possible response was a similar exchange / 'life auction' site might
include usa leaders.. Poindexter became unemployed for a while. James
Dalton Bell -aka jim Bell- was incarcerated in a max security black site
in solitary for 12 years on petty charges.

Life's a bitch if you are not a retired Admiral.

On 5 Jun 2015 02:44, "Douglas Rankine" <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Dear coderman and PMH,

Not a lot changes in “disruption strategies” then, they are just bigger
and have better technologies. The prejudices remain the same, the violent
interventions they organised, provoking the stupid into using violence and
other illegal methods. They were called provocations in my day, organised
by paid state agents called agent provocateurs, (with a smattering of
amateur loyal volunteers). It has always been the way, ever since the
development and establishment of rulers and ruled. People had to be picked
on, examples made.

When human societies got big enough to organise the division of labour in
tribal and feudal structures, they operated “watch and ward”, and I dare
say that it is little different today and will be little different
tomorrow. One can read in the UK declassified public records, reports from
secret police agents, all about the comings and goings of British and US
communists and labour and socialist reporters, and other “persons of
interest” and the prejudices of the state agents who watched them as they
left and returned to the country from the Soviet Union, and various other
countries considered extremist or a threat to the British state. To be
fair, before the 2nd World War, the “fifth column” the fascist parties
and leaderships were also kept under surveillance. Members of the ruling
circles were generally left to themselves, although there were a few
exceptions. We are all equal under the eyes of the state... J. Law for
them and order for you... J.



P.S. Was that the Jim Bell who wrote that piece of literary fiction called
“Assassination Politics” ?

*From:* cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
Behalf Of *Peter M Howell
*Sent:* 04 June 2015 13:22
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*Subject:* [cryptome] Re: Fwd: has there ever been a FOIA request leading
to initiation of criminal prosecution against the requestor?

Lots in cryptome archives re Jim Bell, all of which stinks to this
day..much of which relates to FIO activities Jim initiated in response to
FBI and Homeland security overreach.


On 4 June 2015 at 05:08, coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 5/29/15, coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
i would like to know if anyone is aware of past incidents where a FOIA
request results in a law enforcement agency initiating (accelerating?)
criminal action against the requesting individual...

thanks to everyone for the responses.

someone else pointed out FBI "disruption strategies"[0] which may
appear to be investigation oriented but in fact are merely denial of
service attacks.

i created a new FOIA for this category of operation[1] and will see
what turns up...

best regards,

0. "UNLEASHED AND UNACCOUNTABLE - The FBI’s Unchecked Abuse of Authority"
see page 18, chapter 3, 'Innocent Victims of Aggressive Investigation
and Surveillance'

1. "FederalDisruption"


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