[cryptome] Re: Freedom of Speech: Caricatures of the Prophet Mohammet

  • From: Aftermath <aftermath.thegreat@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 06:06:16 -0800

wow thanks for sharing this. eye opening.

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015, Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>

>  nicely put Doug.
> I have two very distinct points of view with regard to religion;
> 1) the bible. in whatever form it is written( and apparently all the major
> religious texts say much the same thing) I refer to as "the book of
> contradictions.
> 2) God, in whatever way shape or form he/she/it is depicted is mankind's
> personification or humanization of the combined forces of nature by virtue
> of the fact that nature is largely outside of the control of mankind and
> invisible.( save for its effects of course).
> Shaun
> On 14/01/2015 11:18, doug wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
> I never read newspapers or magazines these days...One pays for editorial
> propaganda and being a target of advertisers. And I would never dream of
> insulting anyone because of their religion or religious beliefs...far too
> many other things going on in my life, which are much more interesting.
> However, in the interests of free speech, I pay lip service to others who
> have such bees in their bunnets.
> You can of course, if you are interested, see caricatures, paintings,
> likenesses and so on of the Prophet Mohammed, in the Guggenhiem Museum in
> New York, and they are also on show if you ask to see them, at the British
> Library.  I dare say that there are many other historical records kept in
> the leading cities of the world. These likenesses were mainly created in
> the 8th Century or thereabouts, and are absolutely beatiful and were never
> considered as contentious.  They were created by Muslim artists.  Not all
> parts of the Muslim religion are united in their opposition to the
> publishing  of pictures of Mohammed.  And the Caliphs and I believe certain
> sections of the Shi'ites still use them in every day worship...and Muslim
> artists still create them every day.  There are of course, certain Islaamic
> countries where pictures or effigies of Jews and Jesus Christ are burnt or
> stoned every day, with, or without state sanction.  One doesn't hear of
> them very often of course...international diplomacy being what it is....
> The trouble I have found with this world, is that some learned people, who
> should know better, just don't have a clue what they are talking about.  I
> have also found that most very religious people, with whom I have spoken,
> have very little knowledge of the history of their own religion.  Like most
> of the irreligious, they tend to pick out the "nice" bits in life and
> believe in that, and forget the contentious bits.  How else would one get
> through life.  The study of the history of religion, I, of course, find
> fascinating.
> see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad
> see url: http://islamqa.info/en/10452
> Why people shouldn't have pictures of Mohammed, particularly Christians.
> The Muslim faith came into being some four centuries after
> Christianity...not that that means anything....:-)
> C'est la vie....
> Dougie.
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