On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 6:26 AM, John Young <jya@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > ... > Pardons of Manning and Snowden, shutdown investigating > of Assange, and several other intimidating and chilling > operations would be persuasive. this will never happen. they may have lost this particular battle for secrecy, however, they're not in the slightest conciliatory - only angry at getting caught (and Snowden, et. al. are perfect targets for that continued anger!) > Spying was invented to catch tax cheats and assure revenue > for government operation and rule, and nothing unites the > world's governments more than that essential transfusion > of money to sustain government beneficiares, in the US the > three branches, state and local. Military merely cops to > control obedient payment. unless you're an international corporation, in which case, USGov has fought valiantly to protect your precious loopholes and havens. > Nobody should believe this will change without a lot more > than hopeful dreaming. when does that bill to de-fund NSA programs re-introduce?