[cryptome] Re: EPIC v DOJ Case: Search and release of documents kept by the state pertaining to innocent individuals

  • From: Edward Stevens <edwardstevens48@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 21:51:56 -0400

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On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Douglas Rankine <
douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> See url: http://cryptome.org/2015/03/epic-wl-040-042.pdf
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>    - See url: *EPIC Partially Prevails in FOIA Case, Wikileaks
>    Investigation Ongoing:* A federal judge has granted in part
>    <https://epic.org/foia/doj/wikileaks/EPIC-v-DOJ-Wikileaks-Opinion.pdf>
>    EPIC's motion for summary judgment
>    <https://epic.org/foia/EPIC%20v.%20DOJ-wikileaks-OPPcross%20FINAL.pdf>
>    in a FOIA case <https://epic.org/foia/doj/wikileaks/> about the
>    government's surveillance of Wikileaks supporters. Three divisions of the
>    Justice Department - the FBI, the National Security Division, and the
>    Criminal Division - failed to provide any documents in response to EPIC's
>    FOIA request. <https://epic.org/foia/EPIC-DOJ-WikileaksFOIA.PDF> The
>    FBI stated that there was no surveillance of supporters and that an
>    investigation was ongoing. Judge Rothstein sided with the FBI and the
>    Criminal Division, but held that the National Security Division had failed
>    to justify its withholdings. (Mar. 5, 2015)>>>end of quote.
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> Wikileaks leak revealed that tabs were being kept on Appelbaum etc by US
> law enforcement agencies.   Appelbaum and other John Does weren’t suspected
> as criminals
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> In this legal contest between EPIC (Electronic Privacy Information Centre)
> as the plaintiff and Department of Justice as defendant.  EPIC was
> complaining that a file search on Wikileaks and its supporters under
> Freedom of Information Act wasn’t carried out properly by the appropriate
> authorities i.e. F.B.I.   The state said it did, but it didn’t find much
> and what it did find was one file on Wikileaks which, on further
> investigation with the case officers was either subject to an ongoing
> criminal investigation, or withheld for national security reasons.
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> What EPIC was trying to do was to get access to records held by the US
> state on people or their organisations, who or which have not committed any
> crimes or were being investigated for any crimes of a federal nature.  To
> do such a thing is an illegal violation of individual rights to privacy
> under the US constitution.  And, as we all know, the state does its best to
> protect individual privacy, at great cost to itself.  It really does take
> such things as personal privacy and privacy of communicaitons seriously,
> and therefore wouldn’t even dream of doing such a thing.
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> My conclusion: If the state  doesn’t keep records on individuals who
> haven’t committed any crime, then it isn’t going to find them!  It’s a bit
> like trying to find WMDs in Iraq when they haven’t got any...:-).
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> Enjoy,
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> ATB
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> Dougie.
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