[cryptome] Re: Cryptome for sale with access log files from 1996 for $50,000,000

  • From: Shelley <shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <cryptography@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <cypherpunks@xxxxxxxxxx>, <nettime-l@xxxxxxxx>, John Young <jya@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:23:37 -0700

On October 14, 2015 9:32:30 PM John Young <jya@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cryptome for sale with access log files from 1996 for $50,000,000.
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So, its been a day since this was posted. It appears as though neither JYA nor Cryptome have been compromised and the posts and tweets that have followed appear to be authentic JY.

I've been a bit busy today, so - have I missed it? John's explanation of why he would keep access logs going back to 1996, when it was posted on Cryptome itself for years that logs were deleted daily or better - and he gave an affidavit to a grand jury stating that he had no such files? Or perhaps why he wants to sell out in the first place?

If he's tired of doing it, I get it. If he wants to enjoy his remaining time on the planet instead of dealing with this BS, more power to him. But why go out this way? The legacy he has built with that site is being crushed. Without Cryptome, there would likely be no Wikileaks. No Manning, no Snowden.

This isn't just about being identified in the logs, but their very existence. Those of you who insist on trying to divert the conversation away by blaming people for not being behind 7 proxies are just wasting space. We know, we preach it too! That is not the point.

Personally, I don't give a fck if my info is in the log files. If I did, I surely would not be posting to public lists about it. I'm probably on enough "watch lists" already that visiting Cryptome isn't going to make a damn bit of difference.

No, I'm concerned for sources that gave info and documents to Cryptome. For people in countries where they possibly face dire consequences for even viewing such info (jail, torture, even death.)

It's not funny, and it's not right. From what I've heard, a bunch of us would really appreciate an explanation from John - in plain English.

-Shelley



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