[cryptome] Re: Cryptome: Enigma Machine for Sale: $228,500

  • From: "Douglas Rankine" <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:23:14 +0100

Hi Aftermath,

I think that building my own enigma machine would be a cool project too... J.
Thank you. And for all sorts of reasons, mostly to do with my childhood

My reference to my wife using the Enigma machine as a suitable form of
encryption and secure form of transmission of private information and data
between her and the bank, was indeed meant as a joke. I was trying to
communicate that encryption as a method of secure communications is in the same
bind in todays world of “advanced” communications, with software programs and
emulations, as the Enigma was with Ultra and Colossus. And...no, my wife won’t
be using enigma, to encipher her bank transactions. It is enough for us both
to use the banking system and, if they make a security mistake the government
guarantees repayment.

Unfortunately, using plain text and the email system has many shortcomings and
much can be lost in the method of communication, and it can be a great
challenge. Overcoming those limitations, even with the use of smileys and
other similar symbols can be very difficult, particularly when communications
between people are limited to the written word. We all use sound, vision, body
language and kinetic forms and senses to communicate with one another, when we
are face to face. The written word uses only one form of communication and
the other cues are missing.

Also, though some humour is universal, i.e. a joke which will make everyone
laugh, no matter their culture, age, or upbringing. It is only the great
comics like Charlie Chaplin who have managed to achieve this. Humour, like our
other senses is very much in the perceptions of the beholder, whether it be
ear, or eye, or a good tickle... J. Humour can also be ethnic or cultural, or
regional, or group based. The difference between Japanese and Jewish, or
Scottish and English, or sailors and electricians. Also, there are some people
who have various forms of autism who find it difficult to decide, through no
fault of their own, whether something is or someone is being humorous or

Do you like Charlie Chaplin? Watching someone slipping on a banana skin is an
example of what makes some people laugh, yet, some people don’t find it funny
at all; after all the consequences of doing so could be quite devastating for
the victim... J.



P.S. There are plenty of people and organisations in the world who still can’t
decipher encrypted data from an enigma machine...if only because they don’t
need to, don’t have one...and therefore don’t have the facilities and know how
to do so.

From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Aftermath
Sent: 03 June 2015 14:57
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Re: Cryptome: Enigma Machine for Sale: $228,500


I encourage you to make a replica enigma machine. its a very cool project to
take on.

However, I dont think doing banking with an enigma machine would be very

I honestly cant tell if your comments are an attempt at humor.. How exactly
would you do banking with an enigma machine? Both parties have to have to use
the machine and both have to have the same configuration (key).

I believe that the enigma cypher is severely depreciated.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Douglas Rankine
<douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Andrew & Aftermath,

Tx for the links. Now I have something to keep me occupied when I get around
to retiring... J. I dunno if I am so keen on those software simulators
though...too easily cracked for my liking, and the programming allus puts me
head in a muddle. I can see that there is a market for it out there. All
those disillusioned people running away from encryption software and looking
for better alternatives...

Physically building ones own though... Ideal little project, not too costly
and like going back to school, little bit of metalwork, bit of woodwork, bit of
electronic wiring, simple software...couldn’t’ t ask for more as a computer
illiterate, better than the old crystal sets. Are you sure that it is
approved by the NSA and GCHQ though? I mean, if I was to let me missus loose on
it and she had her bank and id compromised, I would really be in deep shit.

I can see that the CIA would find it plausible, though they would probably deny
it!... J.



From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Aftermath
Sent: 02 June 2015 19:34
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Re: Cryptome: Enigma Machine for Sale: $228,500

emulator source code:

in-browser app: http://enigma.louisedade.co.uk/

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Andrew Hornback <achornback@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

30 seconds worth of Google searching turned up this...


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On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Douglas Rankine
<douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

See url: http://cryptome.org/

At url:

I saw this for sale up at cryptome today. At $228,500 I would want it
guaranteed to pass global NSA/GCHQ/CIA security testing standards, as me missus
wants to use it for enciphering her banking transactions. Does any of you
security bods out there know if it meets those standards...and can it be put in
as an add on to Firefox or TOR via my laptop, and if there is a micro-version.



P.S. Does anyone know if there is a DIY job which I can build meself and is a
lot cheaper?


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