Unsubscribe also from Ron Boyer. On Saturday, March 15, 2014, Tom Allyn <tomallyn@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Unsubscribe > > Sent from my mobile device > Tom Allyn > >> On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:11 AM, tpb-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> >> >>> Message du 14/03/14 04:52 >>> De : "Troy Benjegerdes" >>> A : tpb-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> Copie à : "John Young" , cypherpunks@xxxxxxxxxx, cryptography@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Objet : Re: Comsec as Public Utility Beyond Illusory Privacy >> >>>>> getting agreement of all targets -- gov, com, edu, org -- to say >>>>> enough is enough, national security has become a catchall for >>>>> inexcusable invasion of the public realm. >>>> >>>> It remembers me when someone proposed that IPv6 encryption should become optional and the proposal was accepted. If we had IPv6 encrypted by now, things would be a little bit different ... >>> >>> And networks would be harder to debug, unless you happened to work for the >>> comsec utility or the NSA and already had all the decryption keys. >>> >>> Let me suggestion using IPv7 where encryption is also optional, but at least >>> happens to use the same ecdsa keys you use for your money to encrypt packets >>> if you so desire. >>> >>> -- >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Troy Benjegerdes 'da hozer' hozer@xxxxxxxxx >>> 7 elements earth::water::air::fire::mind::spirit::soul grid.coop >>> >>> Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel, >>> nor try buy a hacker who makes money by the megahash >> >> I absolutely don't see the point that justifies debugging network problems to be a bigger concern than the privacy of everyone in the world. Debugging be damned. >> >> We should move to quantum-proof crypto, ECDSA is merely a stopgap. >> >