Jamming cigars up her vagina and masturbating as she danced and
shooting sperm across the room on to the dress is WHAT? Not sex?
On 2015-02-27, at 4:39 PM, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
given the public expose I am inclined to agree with you. I would have
been mortified had i been in the same position as himself.
On 27/02/2015 23:41, doug wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Clinton said, "I did not have sex with that woman". And he was
right, he was telling the truth. He took advice from one of the
US.s top specialist lawyers and a judge on the subject and he was
advised that what he did "with that woman" could not be constituted
as having sex, no matter what the public thought...en masse.
Rape is defined as the entry of 1 inch of penis into the vagina
without continuing consent of the woman. His penis was nowhere near
"that woman's" vagina, probably because it was so bent and pointing
upwards whilst she was kneeling down, also, in the alternative, it
is not known whether "that woman" uttered any form of coherent
consent, from the beginning to the end of oral consumation and
ejaculation.
Those latter remarks are pure hearsay of course, so don't quote me.
I never actually saw the photo he had to have taken of his
penis...:-) . Mind you, it might be on the Congress court record
somewhere. I wonder if John would be able to get a copy...and put
it on Cryptome...in the pursuit of free speech of course...:-) . Or
perhaps it is classified as a compartmentalised top secret
document...locked up for 50 years :-) .
Joking aside, it must have been a terrible for his family to handle...
ATB
Dougie.
On 27/02/15 23:22, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
Hi Doug.
Do I know any honest people? hmmm. I know many who say they are
honest but there is a world of difference between declaring oneself
as being honest and actually being 100% honest, I think all of of
us fib from time to time if truth be told.
nowt wrong with that if it does no harm imho.
reminds me of the Clinton fiasco when wots his name declared rather
lamely
"I'm trying to be honest here", i think he got caught having an
extra marital affair if memory serves.
I could never decide whether to feel sorry for the guy or gloat
over his misfortune at getting caught.
ATB
Shaun
On 27/02/2015 22:41, doug wrote:
Hi Shaun,
He is 89 years old...I shouldn't think he is doing it for the
money. He is spending money on the court case, hoping to prevent
the showing and distribution of the film...and protect the secrets
of the US government. A bit late, but never mind. It depends on
how long he is going to pursue his case regarding the publication
of classified documents, remember, even when classified documents
are in the public domain, it doesn't remove their secret
classification...and what support he is getting or hoping to get.
It might finish up as damp squib, or a big bang as it comes up to
the US electiion. Who knows what motives and intentions he is
pursuing, apart from what it says on the face of his court case.
As for truth...in my view, there are many of them... it is just
a question of picking the ones that serve one best...and learning
to discard them and adopt new ones when they become inconvenient.:-)
ATB
Dougie.
P.S. Do you know any honest people...:-)
On 27/02/15 22:20, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
Hi Doug
I got my movie for free, and yes it was quite interesting.
microwaves are great Faraday cages.( just remember to take the
mobile out before turning the thing on). fridges are great for
prolonging trace memory on a ram chip ( but you have to be bloody
nippy and get the chip in the freezer within 30 seconds of power
down),
Regarding the blanket scene I had myself asking the question is
this guy for real? I got the impression that while he is plainly
quite articulate , he was scared stiff but didn't want to make
too much play of it.
And as for Edwards making a big hoo ha over the film, i think he
is just trying to get money off the producers of the film under
the pretext of damage. looking at the case material( such as i
have read thus far), he seems to be changing his tactics each
time he gets rebuffed.
As to the matter of "truth"now let me cogitate upon that one.
....yes "truth" is that which we as a society accept as such by a
combination of mutual agreement and subtle coercion.
ATB
Shaun aka Paddington bear.
On 27/02/2015 21:39, doug wrote:
Hi Shaun,
I watched the film on Channel 4. Things come free to those who
wait:-) .
I am thinking about suing Edwards, of Edwards v Snowden, for
misrepresentation. I didn't suffer from aches and pains, mental
and physical anguish. I wasn't psychologically destroyed by the
failure in US and UK national security. I have no immediate or
long term fear of Al Quaeda creating another 9/11 (at least no
more immediate than I have a fear of the world being destroyed
by nuclear weapons). I don't see the terrorists rising up and
using other methods of communication to overcome NSA or GCHQ
surveillance. They may have gone all quiet and returned to the
language of the W.O.M.B...who knows. Jihadi John continues his
work, and I day say that his asshole is squeaking now that his
true identity has been discovered. Osama Ben Laden comes to mind...
Of course, the terrorists might have been responsible for
engineering the downfall of Sir Malcolm Rifkind, Chairman of
the UK Intelligence and Security Committee, by paying Channel 4
to set him up in a sting operation, with a new job with a new
Chinese company asking how much it would cost for him and the
Straw man to approach Ambassadors and others of influence in the
government, but I tend to think that it was more to do with
their big ego. They should learn to work harder at their age,
instead of lounging about earning a fortune at the taxpayers
expense and travelling the world on public expense accounts.
In fact, quite the opposite from Mr. Edwards, I quite enjoyed
the film, it put everything together for me. I have seen
better, but at least it didn't cost too much to make. I
particularly liked the keeping of mobile phones in the
fridge...or was it the microwave? The wearing of the blanket by
Snowden to prevent surreptitious intrusion on his air-gapped
computer by the powers that be was either a master stroke or
streak of paranoi, (didn't I read an article somewhere, by some
well respected security consultant whose air-gapped computer
somehow, even after being swiped and forensically cleaned and a
new, clean operating system installed, still finished up with a
compromised operating system?) and lying of the NSA and CIA
Directors at the house committees after swearing the oaths of
telling the truth. I dare say that their lying was completely
unwitting of course...they never ever lie on purpose. No means
no...doesn't it...:-) . The NSA and the other intelligence and
security services do NOT collect US citizens data, content and
metadata on purpose.
ATB
Dougie.
On 25/02/15 22:16, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
already have the3 movie.;-)
On 25/02/2015 20:51, doug wrote:
Citizen 4 on UK TV Channel 4 at 11 p.m.
For your information...
Enjoy...:-).
ATB
Dougie.
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