Hi Core TX, I did like that Chinese netbook with the linux stuff on it. I liked their little computer as well. Quite impressive reading all the research they have done on it to try and make it successful for the market place. I can see now, that I asked a really stoopid question...Maybe the backdoor in the armour of the chain of security is a small Chinese one... Even the thermal noise of the various components in a computer creates a unique identifier. Ah Well! Back to the drawing board...plenty of time yet. I think I might get meself one of those 3 d printers and print meself a new brain... J. Trouble will be finding the right software for it... J. ATB Dougie. From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Core TX Sent: 16 March 2015 10:07 To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cryptome] Re: Buying a A New Laptop? - coreboot Here you have a picture of your quoted "from foot eating", yet brilliant RMS with a Lemote: http://i.imgur.com/XXX4Qnq.jpg And yes, this contains the Loongson. :) 2015-03-16 11:03 GMT+01:00 Core TX <coretx@xxxxxxxxx>: Loongson CPU's might not be publicly audited, but they are being used by the Chinese government for security purposes. This means that the 5 eyes network at least has to put a lot of energy into hacking it. Whereas American CPU's certainly are owned already. Unless you are Chinese or involved with their (geo)politics, this makes them a sensible option. 2015-03-16 2:47 GMT+01:00 coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx>: On 3/15/15, Core TX <coretx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The librem-laptop contains a Intel CPU. = Spyware. for some definitions, everything is spyware. go unabomber or try to make less bad? > Your primary solution ( x200 with coreboot ), but also contains a Intel CPU > and some shady parts that > have not undergone audits. show me an audited chip that isn't an openRISC! :P > All that software freedom is totally useless if you can't trust the > hardware. "Why We Need Free Digital Hardware Designs" by RMS https://www.wired.com/2015/03/need-free-digital-hardware-designs/ coreboot let's you prune some badness, but trade-offs abound. (and distro can reverse your ucode update aversion with a single pkg add.) we could get into specifics, but i'm either preaching to the choir or way over heads... best regards, _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5856 / Virus Database: 4306/9314 - Release Date: 03/16/15