Brexit is not loosing an opinion.
They are loosing democracy as in democrate. This is the sadness thing
Europe can see and aplaude.
From Marx to others before thinkers, all the system is mad.
I am so sad all those smarts went dumb because all of you are enginees of
Europe is not A money but where people cross others.
Europe is where opinions differs and give richness.
Europe is build from its richness not its clossness.
A brexit was greater than a join because we are not sames.
Thank you for voting Britain. Bless on you.
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:20 PM, douglas rankine <
This morning...after a night of calm reflection...caused by one of the
most violent thunderstorms and floods of rain we have had in years, I
popped down to the polling station and voted. In the UK one doesn't need
any I.D. one just says ones name and address, the polling clerk ticks the
name on a list, a numbered ballot paper is handed over, the number of the
ballot paper is recorded on the ballot list, and then goes off to cast ones
vote in secret at the ballot box. After filling it in, one duly deposits
the folded paper into a numbered ballot box, supervised by a ballot box
attendant and...it is all tickety boo, ready for the next citizen to
participate. The ballot box was made of canvas and sealed, and when the
paper was deposited, a flap made it difficult to get the paper back out
again. There were no police in attendance...after all we are British, no
one outside wanting to collect our polling card and ask which way we voted,
and there was a steady dribble of people, mostly senior citizens.
After the polls are closed the ballot papers are taken, under seal and
the watchful eye of the Head Polling Clark to the nearest counting station,
where they are brought in and opened by counting clerks under the watchful
eyes of representatives of the main political parties, and then they are
counted. In the case of a referendum, I don't know if there will be
watchful eyes from the political parties, or who it is that will challenge
any ballot papers which have been filled our wrongly or are of doubtful
clarity...apart from the elections officers. That will be an interesting
one to find out. The United Nations committee on such matters, reckons
that the UK has one of the worst voting systems in the world...worse than
any 3rd world country, ever since Tony Blair changed it so that there could
be polling stations in the likes of Tescos and where it was made a lot
easier for postal voting to take place. It is reckoned that around one
third of votes take place through the postal vote and they have all been
done weeks ago, so the main campaign has little or no influence on those
votes. The results will be decided on those who vote today, particularly
that 10% or so, the ones, like me, who kept their options open until the
moment of casting.
It was so easy, I am wondering why this is the first time I have voted in
years...must have been some reason...the lesser of two evils perhaps, or
the evil of two lessers. We have two methods of voting in the UK, one is
secret ballot by post, where the householder can send in the ballot papers
for everyone in the house, the other is by attendance at the secret
ballot. We also have two selection methods in UK elections, the general
election is done by the "first past the post" system, which produces a
majority in a constituency, but has led to minority governments being
elected since the end of the Second World War, and we have a proportional
representation system, which allows UKIP to get European M.P.s elected to
the European Union. As the referendum has no candidates, and only one
question with two answers, first past the post will win...No gradiated
answers here...like how keen I am on saying yes or no, on a grade up to 10,
or room for alternative kinds of European Union, like a common market and
not a European Super State...
Yougov, of which I am a member, a most respected pollster in the UK, which
is why I am a member, plus they give you points for every piece of your
nakedness that you reveal, and points mean prizes...£50 for 5000 points
which one gets roughly every 5 years....composed of experts in polling
systems, and people from the BBC and getting results which are reasonably
accurate (apart from the last general election) sent me an email last night
asking if I was voting, at roughly what time in the day I will be voting,
and how I will be voting. The reason they wanted to know, was so that they
could beat everyone else by sending me another email after I have voted to
confirm that I had voted, so coming up with the result, one way or the
other, before anyone else does...and even before the polling has
ended...except they won't be able to publish it, due to a forbidding clause
in the Representation of the People Act 1948, as amended blah blah blah.
Good ole computers and clever use of them and clever marketing are all the
play today, saves on people standing out in the thundering rain, collecting
individual responses, in the thousands of polling stations around the
country...Nuffink like having efficient computers. We will become a First
World country soon, getting electronic voting, just like the US of A...but
not quite yet...problem of trust, apparently...:-).
And which way did I vote...I bet you are all wanting to know...:-). No,
non, nein, and nyet.
Tattybye for now.
P.S. I reckon that Remain will win, by 58% to 43%.
P.P.S And, just for the crack, seeing as we are all experts in deception
on this mailing list...apart from each other...of course...where honesty,
sincerity and accurate non-selective information dominates... Did you know
that 5 eyes are unanimous that for reasons of security and intelligence in
the western world, it is better that the UK remains a member. And where
did that come from...some classified, secret document....No,no, no. The
big yin, the top dog of the the leader of the Scottish Conservative Party
revealed that wee gem. Up until lately, I think she was the only member of
the Scottish Conservative Party...but things will change...
On 22/06/2016 12:35, Joe Products wrote:
I am for Remain.
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Od: John Young <jya@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <jya@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Datum: 22. 6. 2016 12:44:02
Předmět: [cryptome] Re: Brexit v Bremain: EU Referendum 2016
It has been argued that the smaller the government the better, and
the larger the worse.
The few who most benefit from larger are adamant about its necessity. And
will go to war -- police, civil, global -- to protect the top of the
And will empower spies, police, military, justice, to do what is necessary
to protect the privileged few inside and outside government.
And conspire with other pyramid tops to assure their perpetuation.
And will enforce pyramid top policies upon smaller by whatever means
are necessary: military, propaganda, education, bribery, coercion,
And will legislate laws to justify perpetuation and criminalize opposition,
and condone whatever means are necessary.
And will squander societal, economic and physical resources in the
name of "national security," a euphemism for larger government's
And will propound the notion that enlightened, benevolent leadership
is essential for peace, security and civilization, while demonstrating
as necessary the murderous mass brutality to suppress opposition
at home and abroad, in consort with other like-minded, heavily
armed pyramid tops.
Statements like this assure placement in a dossier of opposition.
So it must be said, this is only a means to seduce others to hang