Oops! I put a url in the wrong place, not C.P.Snow, but http://www.world-nuclear.org/Nuclear-Basics/Global-number-of-nuclear-reactors/ From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Douglas Rankine Sent: 09 March 2015 11:59 To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cryptome] Boom! Boom!:Was:RE: Re: Israel Election: 30,000 in Mass Rally against Netanyahu Hi Shaun, Now that is funny...:-). One of the other things that I find very strange, as well as funny...is that there are an awful lot of countries, particularly the poorer ones, who also want nuclear weapons, and yet, the countries who have already got them, find that they can’t get rid of them! All those nuclear weapons, the nuclear sites and all those high and low radioactive substances are very damaging to human beings, to our environment...and very expensive to maintain...and contain. In fact the amount of money that is spent on the production of nuclear weapons, the mining and the refining of uranium and turning it into plutonium is incredible. However, it doesn’t even compare with the cost in human resources, of those miners who dig the oxide out of the ground, or the other workers in the industry, and the families who live near nuclear power stations, who suffer cancers and shortened lives, or those who suffer from nuclear accidents, massive amounts of radiation released by tsunamis or human folly in the terms of removing safety procedures to get increased power. There are now somewhere in the region of 435 nuclear power stations operating or under construction in over 31 countries. See url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._P._Snow When nuclear power was first used to produce electricity...at what was called Windscale and is now called Sellafield, it was opened by the Queen and dressed up as an electrical power producing plant, which made cheap electricity from nuclear fuel and it was said to be very safe and good for the environment, because it didn’t use fossil fuels and pollute the environment. I remember at the time Windscale was being built, I was sitting in the dentists waiting room, as an emergency patient with toothache, when my mind was taken away from the pain by reading an article in the National Geographical Magazine, which always seemed to be freely available at the dentists at the time. The article was on the merits and use of nuclear power and nuclear fission in particular, and showed some pictures and diagrams of the construction of the plant and the science behind nuclear fission. I was only around 11 years old at the time, but I was so absorbed by the article that I completely forgot about my toothache, thinking what a wonderful invention it was. For a more modern resume of nuclear fission, see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fission What was kept secret at the time, was the massive subsidies from the government to the industry, to those corporations building the plant, the massive amount of concrete needed to encase it for safety reasons, and the huge amounts of money spent on securing the plant. All the secret stuff came out later, a book was written called “The Corridors of Power” by C.P. Snow... See url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._P._Snow still well worth a read to get into the secret, Machiavellian machinations of our ruling establishment who were determined to get it built. How can one oppose something if one doesn’t know it is occurring? Most people didn’t have a clue in those days just how dangerous this stuff was, even though Hiroshima and Nagasaki was still fresh in the minds of those who survived the second world war. Like me they didn’t tend to associate peaceful uses of nuclear power with its being a “weapon of mass destruction”. In fact the phrase is a new invention, coming out of 9/11 and the Iraq War. Many people thought that nuclear fission was the best thing since the invention of sliced bread, most others didn’t care or weren’t bothered, just like today, too busy surviving and getting on with life, living in the present. Again, the government was clever, (the management of persons and their perceptions of reality is hardly a new concept) nuclear power was sold on the basis of being a peaceful use of the awesome power of nuclear fission, a nice, clean, controlled environment, with plenty of safety procedures and controls to prevent it from going “pear” shaped...:-)... and cheap power readily available for the consumption of the masses in the coming, not social, but consumer revolution. All those electrical consumer goods, white goods, household aids, would never have sold in such quantities if it hadn’t been for cheaper electricity and hire purchase. I have changed my mind a number of times on support or non-support of nuclear power being used for producing electricity. As time goes by, and hindsight comes to the front, as nuclear accidents increased in both severity and numbers, as nuclear weapons multiplied both in size, in form and types of delivery, as methods of containment of nuclear rubbish were found to be leaking; it became more worrying for me. Sellafield or Windscale containment areas leach radioactive materials quite profusely, millions of pounds being spent on putting a finger in the dyke. In the Northern tip of Scotland, Dounray, leaks radioactivity into the beaches and sea, preventing the fishermen from carrying on their trade, all due to burying used nuclear products...BELOW sea level in underground storage centres. These days, with further knowledge developing about using fossil fuels more cleanly and new types of more environmentally sustainable power production, from heat pumps to wind turbines, hydro electric and tidal power stations, cleaner burning of coal; there are alternatives which cost far less than nuclear power ever did. It is interesting to note that more money was spent on researching nuclear power in one year, than has ever been spent on researching alternative and more sustainable forms of energy production and conservation for the last 70 years. So, we are left today, with countries still hanging on to nuclear power, to weapons of mass destruction, those that have them trying to prevent them from proliferation, only to find that their intelligence services, or spies or those who wish to make a fast buck in the nuclear industry or large corporation, subvert the system or break the law, and give, sell or make the secrets available for all sorts of other expedient reasons. And that poor countries or countries who feel disadvantaged or are being conned into believing that nuclear power and weapons are the answer to peace and cheap electricity production, are queuing up to becoming members of the nuclear club. Iran has plenty of oil, more than enough to sustain its exports and internal usage for a hundred years. Why does it want nuclear power...if not nuclear weapons? But human folly is nothing new and never original...it is just the scale of it that gets better and bigger... Lists of nuclear accidents can be studied... See url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_nuclear_disasters_and_radioactive_incidents For all the ones that are known about. At least, over millions of years, the continental plates will consume and subsume our present environment, and new sets of problems and new species will surface for someone or some other thing to solve. I feel some science fiction coming on here...”The Kraken Wakes” by John Wyndam, perhaps ...:-). I hope you all enjoy this little piece and find it interesting and educational...if not...perhaps you would like to contribute your own...:-). ATB Dougie. From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shaun O'Connor Sent: 08 March 2015 22:54 To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cryptome] Re: Israel Election: 30,000 in Mass Rally against Netanyahu BOOOM!!!!! On 08/03/2015 22:29, Douglas Rankine wrote: Yup! All you need is a little bit of magic potion...and a keyword like Abracadabra...:-). From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ryan Carboni Sent: 08 March 2015 12:01 To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cryptome] Re: Israel Election: 30,000 in Mass Rally against Netanyahu wow, all you need is a bunch of enriched uranium and high explosives to design a nuclear weapon? I think it is a little more complex than that On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Douglas Rankine <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: See url: http://www.timesofisrael.com/tens-of-thousands-fill-rabin-square-for-anti-netanyahu-rally/ Estimate of 30,000 protesters attending. --------------------------- Ex Mossad Chief, accuses Netanyahu of making it up about Iran developing nuclear weapons in a year or less, says Netanyahu is talking bullshit... See url: http://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-mossad-chief-says-pm-misled-congress-on-iran-breakout-time/ Excerpt from Netanyahu’s speech to Congress, see url: http://www.timesofisrael.com/full-text-netanyahus-speech-to-congress/ Quote: Because Iran’s nuclear program would be left largely intact, Iran’s break-out time would be very short — about a year by U.S. assessment, even shorter by Israel’s.>>>end of quote. ----------------------------- Strange how no one is talking about, or even mentioning, or hinting...at Israel’s nuclear weapons...Not Iran, not the USA, not the UK, not France, not Russia, not India, not Pakistan, not China, not North Korea...not even Netanyahu, or the government of Israel...Is it one of those big secrets? An invisible elephant on the world’s stage? ATB Dougie. _____ No virus found in this message. 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