[cryptome] Re: Boom! Boom!:Was:RE: Re: Israel Election: 30,000 in Mass Rally against Netanyahu

  • From: "Douglas Rankine" <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 12:03:14 -0000

Oops!  I put a url in the wrong place, not C.P.Snow, but 


From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Douglas Rankine
Sent: 09 March 2015 11:59
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Boom! Boom!:Was:RE: Re: Israel Election: 30,000 in Mass 
Rally against Netanyahu


Hi Shaun,


Now that is funny...:-).  


One of the other things that I find very strange, as well as funny...is that 
there are an awful lot of countries, particularly the poorer ones, who also 
want nuclear weapons, and yet, the countries who have already got them, find 
that they can’t get rid of them!  All those nuclear weapons, the nuclear sites 
and all those high and low radioactive substances are very damaging to human 
beings, to our environment...and very expensive to maintain...and contain.


  In fact the amount of money that is spent on the production of nuclear 
weapons, the mining and  the refining of uranium and turning it into plutonium 
is incredible.  However, it doesn’t   even compare with the cost in human 
resources, of those miners who dig the oxide out of the ground, or the other 
workers in the industry, and the families who live near nuclear power stations, 
who suffer cancers and shortened lives, or those who suffer from nuclear 
accidents, massive amounts of radiation released by tsunamis or human folly in 
the terms of removing safety procedures to get increased power.


There are now somewhere in the region of 435 nuclear power stations operating 
or under construction  in over 31 countries. 

See url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._P._Snow


When nuclear power was first used to produce electricity...at what was called 
Windscale and is now called Sellafield, it was opened by the Queen and dressed 
up as an electrical power producing plant, which made cheap electricity from 
nuclear fuel and it was said to be very safe and good for the environment, 
because it didn’t use fossil fuels and pollute the environment.


  I remember at the time Windscale was being built, I was sitting in the 
dentists waiting room, as an emergency patient with toothache, when my mind was 
taken away from the pain by reading an article in the National Geographical 
Magazine, which always seemed to be freely available at the dentists at the 
time.   The article was on the merits and use of nuclear power and nuclear 
fission in  particular, and showed some pictures and diagrams of the 
construction of the plant and the science behind nuclear fission.  I was only 
around 11 years old at the time, but I was so absorbed by the article that I 
completely forgot about my toothache, thinking what a wonderful invention it 


For a more modern resume of nuclear fission, see url: 


What was kept secret at the time, was the massive subsidies from the government 
to  the industry, to those corporations building the plant, the massive amount 
of concrete needed to encase it  for safety reasons, and  the huge amounts of 
money spent on securing the plant.  All the secret stuff came out later, a book 
was written called “The Corridors of Power” by C.P. Snow...

See url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._P._Snow

still well worth a read to get into the secret, Machiavellian machinations of 
our ruling establishment who were determined to get it built.  How can one 
oppose something if one doesn’t know it is occurring?


  Most people didn’t have a clue in those days just how dangerous this stuff 
was, even though Hiroshima and Nagasaki was still fresh in the minds of those 
who survived the second world war.  Like me they didn’t tend to associate 
peaceful uses of nuclear power with its being a “weapon of mass destruction”. 
In fact the phrase is a new invention, coming out of 9/11 and the Iraq War.   
Many people thought that nuclear fission was the best thing since the invention 
of sliced bread, most others didn’t care or weren’t bothered, just like today, 
too busy surviving and getting on with life, living in the present.  Again, the 
government was clever, (the management of persons and their perceptions of 
reality is hardly a new concept) nuclear power was sold on the basis of being a 
peaceful use of the awesome power of nuclear fission, a nice, clean, controlled 
environment, with plenty of safety procedures and controls to prevent it from 
going “pear” shaped...:-)... and cheap power readily available for the 
consumption of the masses in the coming, not social, but consumer revolution.   
 All those electrical consumer goods, white goods, household aids, would never 
have sold in such quantities if it hadn’t been for cheaper electricity and hire 


I have changed my mind a number of times on support or non-support of nuclear 
power being used for producing electricity.  As time goes by, and hindsight 
comes to the front, as nuclear accidents increased in both severity and 
numbers, as nuclear weapons multiplied both in size, in form and types of 
delivery, as methods of containment of nuclear rubbish were found to be 
leaking; it became more worrying for me.  Sellafield or Windscale containment 
areas leach radioactive materials quite profusely, millions of pounds being 
spent on putting a finger in the dyke.  In the Northern tip of Scotland, 
Dounray, leaks radioactivity into the beaches and sea, preventing the fishermen 
from carrying on their trade, all due to burying used nuclear products...BELOW 
sea level in underground storage centres.


These days, with further knowledge developing about using fossil fuels more 
cleanly and new types of more environmentally sustainable power production, 
from heat pumps to wind turbines, hydro electric and tidal power stations, 
cleaner burning of coal; there are alternatives which cost far less than 
nuclear power ever did.  It is interesting to note that more money was spent on 
researching nuclear power in one year, than  has ever been spent on researching 
alternative and more  sustainable forms of energy production and conservation 
for the last 70  years.


So, we are left today, with countries still hanging on to nuclear power, to 
weapons of mass destruction, those that have them trying to prevent them from 
proliferation, only to find that their intelligence services, or spies or those 
who wish to make a fast buck in the nuclear industry or large corporation, 
subvert the system or break the law, and give, sell or make the secrets 
available for all sorts of other expedient reasons.  And that poor countries or 
countries who feel disadvantaged or are being conned into believing that 
nuclear power and weapons are the answer to peace and cheap electricity 
production, are queuing up to becoming members of the nuclear club.  Iran has 
plenty of oil, more than enough to sustain its exports and internal usage for a 
hundred years.  Why does it want nuclear power...if not nuclear weapons?


But human folly is nothing new and never original...it is just the scale of it 
that gets better and bigger...  Lists of nuclear accidents can be studied...

See url: 

For all the ones that are known about.


At least, over millions of years, the continental plates will consume and 
subsume our present environment, and new sets of problems and new species will 
surface for someone or some other thing to solve.  I feel some science fiction 
coming on here...”The Kraken Wakes” by John Wyndam, perhaps ...:-).

I hope you all enjoy this little piece and find it interesting and 
educational...if not...perhaps you would like to contribute your own...:-).




From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Shaun O'Connor
Sent: 08 March 2015 22:54
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Re: Israel Election: 30,000 in Mass Rally against Netanyahu



On 08/03/2015 22:29, Douglas Rankine wrote:

Yup!  All you need is a little bit of magic potion...and a keyword like 


From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Ryan Carboni
Sent: 08 March 2015 12:01
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Re: Israel Election: 30,000 in Mass Rally against Netanyahu


wow, all you need is a bunch of enriched uranium and high explosives to design 
a nuclear weapon?


I think it is a little more complex than that


On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Douglas Rankine 
<douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

See url: 


Estimate of 30,000 protesters attending.


Ex Mossad Chief, accuses Netanyahu of making it up about Iran developing 
nuclear weapons in a year or less, says Netanyahu is talking bullshit...

See url: 


Excerpt from Netanyahu’s speech to Congress, see url: 


Quote: Because Iran’s nuclear program would be left largely intact, Iran’s 
break-out time would be very short — about a year by U.S. assessment, even 
shorter by Israel’s.>>>end of quote.


Strange how no one is talking about, or even mentioning, or hinting...at 
Israel’s nuclear weapons...Not Iran, not the USA, not the UK, not France, not 
Russia, not India, not Pakistan, not China, not North Korea...not even 
Netanyahu, or the government of Israel...Is it one of those big secrets? An 
invisible elephant on the world’s stage?






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