[creation] Re: who was Darwin/

  • From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:45:12 +0000 (GMT)

Dear All,
There is an awful lot of stuff on the Internet about Charles Darwin, that's 
true, but I thought that the following few words from Marvin Lubenow's 
excellent book, "Bones of Contention," are a nice, short summary to answer 
Percival's question:
"Many think of Darwin as a religious man. He studied for the ministry at 
Cambridge. His wife, Emma (daughter of Josiah Wedgwood, maker of Wedgwood 
china), seems to have been an evangelical Christian. Also, Darwin refers in the 
"Origin of Species" to creation and to God. There are even reports that toward 
the end of his life Darwin experienced the new birth. Unfortunately, all of 
this gives a false impression.
"It was parental influence that caused Darwin to study for the ministry. Even 
in his early years Darwin's personal commitment to orthodoxy seems to have been 
minimal. Emma's influence upon Darwin was basically one of restraint. He never 
shared her faith but often softened expressions of his opposing views out of 
respect for her. His references to creation in the "Origin of Species" were 
highly critical of that doctrine. His references to God were only those of a 
theist, not those of an orthodox Christian. Darwin's spiritual journey was 
actually a journey in reverse. He moved from an anemic orthodoxy in his early 
years to a nonorthodox theism in his middle years to agnosticism in his senior 
"In 1919, Darwin's son Francis published a biography of his father together 
with a collection of his father's correspondence. A study of the letters 
written by Charles Darwin between the time of his alleged conversion and the 
time of his death clearly reveals that he experienced no such change of mind 
and heart. ... As far as can be determined, Darwin remained an evolutionist and 
an agnostic to the day of his death."

Knarr <knarrrj@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I would reccomend doing a search on the Internet. It ought to be there.

Ronald Kmarr

Am interested about Darwin,s history especially in his
younger age and his parents as well. Was darwin a
christian in his childhood and before he wrote the
book Origin Of Species ? What drove him to wrote the
book ?


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> observation:
> Under the heading, "Darwin put to flight in Bible
> Belt," on page 27 of The Sunday Times, 30 January,
> 2005, Sarah Baxter presents a report with the
> following tints of bias:
> ********************************
> "Bold initiatives to introduce the concept of
> 'intelligent design', wrought by a god or higher
> being, into theories about Earth's creation are
> being sponsored in towns and communities across
> America.
> "Religious fundamentalists - or 'theocons' - opposed
> to Darwinism have adopted sophisticated tactics .
> "A recent CBS poll found that 55% of Americans and
> 67% of those who voted for Bush do not believe in
> evolution.
> "The prairie town of Salina, Kansas, in the centre
> of the United States is modern enough to have a
> two-mile airstrip. When it comes to religion,
> however, little has changed for some families since
> the pioneers rolled by on their wagons.
> "It is hard for opponents to write the [intelligent
> design movement] off as the American equivalent of
> Afghanistan's fundamentalist Taliban .
> "[Jack Krebs of Kansas Citizens for Science], 56, a
> veteran of skirmishes with anti-evolutionists, said
> . 'It used to be easy to dismiss the views of young
> Earth creationists as an embarrassment, ."
> ********************************
> Well, there we are then. This would imply that we
> are a bunch of backward, Bush-loving 'theocons'
> (what?), whose views are an 'embarrassment' to
> 'real' scientists.
> Knowing this first, that there shall come in the
> last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
> And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for
> since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue
> as they were from the beginning of the creation. For
> this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the
> word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth
> standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby
> the world that then was, being overflowed with
> water, perished: But the heavens and the earth,
> which are now, by the same word are kept in store,
> reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and
> perdition of ungodly men. (2 Pet. 3:3-7, KJV.)

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