Percival, IF ye be Christ's, THEN ARE YE ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE. (Gal. 3:29). Are the "chosen people" of the Old Testament the same as in the New Testament"? Or did Jesus sum it up in Rev.2:9 and 3:9? Consider these Scriptures too: http://www.fixedearth.com/Ten%20Commandments%20II.htm Marshall Marshall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Percival Tanierla" <percy_tan@xxxxxxxxx> To: <creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 1:16 AM Subject: [creation] Re: Israel > Dear Neville, > > I agree with your position that God will never > abandon His chosen people- Israel. GOd bless you > > percival > > > --- "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Dear Ronald, > > > > I thought after I had sent this posting that you > > would pick up on this particular issue! > > > > Although I know nothing of the Talmud, I am aware > > that many Jews place Talmudic teachings above those > > of Scripture. I am also aware that there have been > > some pretty mega deceptions coming from various > > high-profile Jews. In my own field, for instance, we > > have Einstein, Sagan and Feynman, to name but three. > > > > However, God makes it abundantly clear that the Jews > > are His people and that the universe will be > > measured and the depths of the World searched out > > before He will abandon them. In other words, He will > > never desert them. > > > > Therefore, yes, you may instigate discussions of the > > Talmud if you wish, but you may not, on this forum, > > condemn the Jewish nation. And, of course, any > > discussion about their beliefs must be as polite and > > tolerant as any that touches on Catholic beliefs. > > > > (P.S. The delay in replying was due to the fact that > > I have changed my family's sabbath from Sunday to > > Saturday.) > > > > Yours in Christ, > > > > Neville. > > > > Knarr <knarrrj@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Neville, > > Thank you for trying to clarify things. I do have > > one question. You say, "4. I will, under no > > circumstances, allow remarks or postings that are > > anti-Jewish." Are you to be so tolerant of Jews and > > not so of other religions? Why just Jews?? > > You say, "I will allow the discussion of doctrine on > > the forum, as long as it is tolerant and as long as > > all contributors are fully and constantly aware that > > they are not here to convert anyone. (Please do not, > > for example, attack anyone just because they are > > Catholic. If you disagree with a Catholic doctrine - > > as, indeed, I do - then feel free to politely say so > > and give your reasons." > > Does this mean I am not free to make comments on > > Jews as Jews, but that if the situation warrants it, > > in my mind, I may quote what I consider wrong in > > Jews teaching from their Talmud as long as I am > > fully and constantly aware that I am not here to > > convert anyone and politely say so, such as: > > Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in > > "hot excrement.", or > > Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament > > ("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the > > world to come., or > > Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as > > long as the child is less than nine years old., or > > Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse > > with a little girl it is nothing.", or > > Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the > > saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim > > harog ("Even the best of the gentiles should all be > > killed")? > > Now nothing could be more polite. I would be only > > quoting from their own high holy book. I am not > > ashamed for anyone to quote from any official > > Catholic Document. > > If the discussion is not to be strictly held to > > Geocentrizm I think I should be as free to comment > > on Jew's religious teaching as others are to comment > > on the teachings of the Catholic Church, don't you? > > I'm not angry or irate, just asking. Ronald Knarr > > > > --------------------------------- > > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even > > more fun! > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 1/27/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 1/27/2005