Ronald, The Israelites are the large flock. If you or I manage to get into the small flock, then it is by the grace of God, not because we are part of the covernant made by God to His servant Abraham. Perhaps you would like to consider the following, from Isaiah 43: But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine. 2 When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee. 3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee. 4 Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life. 5 Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west; 6 I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; 7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. 8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears. 9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and show us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth. 10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. 12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have showed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God. 13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it? 14 Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships. 15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King. There will be no more insinuations or accusations against the Jews on this forum. Neville. Knarr <knarrrj@xxxxxxx> wrote: Allow me to quote Scripture also in response to you: Romans Chapte 4:13 For not through the law was the promise to Abraham, or to his seed, that he should be heir of the world; but through the justice of faith. 14 For if they who are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, the promise is made of no effect. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Neville Jones To: creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:23 PM Subject: [creation] Re: Israel Dear Percival, Thank you very much for your support. I am especially pleased that you openly bless God's chosen people, Israel. That takes courage and a humble heart condition. "Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will show thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." - Genesis 12:1-3. Your brother, Neville. Percival Tanierla wrote: Dear Neville, I agree with your position that God will never abandon His chosen people- Israel. GOd bless you percival --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!