I have an excellent presentation given by Dr. Joseph Strada at the Kolbe Center for Creation Research that was given this last summer in Front Royal, VA. It is 649MB (huge) so if anyone wants a copy, sent me your mailing address and I will mail you a CD. I was very humorously done and what's best about it is the admissions by the evolutionists themselves that they have no proof which are liberally quoted throughout the document. MAC +JMJ+ PS: some good info here at Bob Sungenis web site on geocentricism. http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles.htm#8 Pps: also here: http://www.kolbecenter.org/ click on creation articles