Thanks , but this does not seem to indicate that he can actually do miracles such as Jesus did, and which He promised His deciples could do as well. Satan is an illusionist.. I often wonder if the wonders prophesied might not have been referring to the works of science.. Like TV Just look how much this has taken society down, with billions of kids no longer able to read. The gospel truth on screen every day. This science has not been perfected to its fullest extant yet.. Think of direct interference with your thinking brain, en masse. Behold I have told it you before hand... Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Lewis To: creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:56 AM Subject: [creation] Re: Animal reasoning? Hi Philip, this is the passage I was thinking of. It comes from 2 Cor 11:13-15 13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:54 AM Subject: [creation] Re: Animal reasoning? > He can even appear as an angel of light - the Bible > tells us so! > Jack can you give me the references for this.. Hardly fair for us poor dumb people is it?