[creation] Re: Animal reasoning?
- From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:54:20 +1000
He can even appear as an angel of light - the Bible
tells us so!
Jack can you give me the references for this.. Hardly fair for us poor dumb
people is it?
I thought he can creat illusions, and thus make a snake appear to talk, but
then why blame the snake, and make such a curse on him, but then again, what
about the tree snakes. They don't grovel under mans heel???? I feel sorry for
Eve. She might have been the very first dumb blonde, and we had to wear the
price of her stupidity of taking notice of a snake.
Talking about intelligence, wasn't Lucifer Gods pride and joy for intelligence.
It doesn't sound even slightly intelligent to me to take on the almighty and
infinite Power of God.
Philip.
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Lewis
To: creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Battles, Cheryl
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: [creation] Re: Animal reasoning?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:25 PM
Subject: [creation] Re: Animal reasoning?
> Dear Jack,
>
> Your logic is simply wrong, because there is another
> possibility: that the reasoning came from the donkey
> itself.
Neville it is easy to think up 'another possibility', I'm sure there are
many people out there who could come up with alternative suggestions but why
the need to?
>The fact that you adamantly refuse to
> acknowledge this option is irrelevant.
So why is it necessary to say it? Isn't this a bit like telling someone that
the fact they do not believe in God is irrelevant? It may be true but sure
isn't the way to encourage a non-believer to become a believer.
> There is an aside to this: that the reasoning given to
> Eve came from the snake.
That is obvious. It was Satan in the guise of a snake that led Eve astray -
he is able to that! He can even appear as an angel of light - the Bible
tells us so!
> Scripture does not say or imply that God placed the
> words in the donkey's mouth.
Why should that rule out the supernatural? Can you imagine how thick the
Bible would be if God explained everything he did? There would be a lot less
need for faith as well!
Neville I very much admire you as a scientist. I have never met anyone
before of your calibre who is prepared to turn standard science on its head
in the way that you do. As I have said in the past I consider myself as your
number one fan. Your analytical approach is breathtakingly surgical and I
sincerely want you to succeed. However I do not think hat you can apply the
same logical analysis to finding Biblical truth and I believe that is what
you are trying to do. The truth can only come by divine revelation, it
cannot be obtained by reasoned argument. I know scripture says 'Come let us
reason together' but it is not a scientific reasoning it is a spiritual
reasoning. You have opened my eyes to double checking the Bible about almost
everything I had learnt about Christianity. This I am now doing and I feel
that I am closer to the truth now than I have ever been. There are a number
of issues on which I disagree with you and I expect that each one will be up
for discussion at some point.
In Christ
Jack
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