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From: Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 14:35:21 +0200

The fact is that eveyone bought an incomplete game.
Capcom is bodying everyone.

On Tuesday, 23 February 2016, richard moorcroft <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

And I will body you afterwards after you are done with Lindsey haha
On Feb 23, 2016 12:05 PM, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

I body you 5-0 and then I started getting bored and doing random stuff to
make the game interesting.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:35 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

Stu just admitted now im not good, meaning Im actually like the best and
now you don't wana admit how good I am.

you not ryt man.

Skill recognizes skill

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No I'm saying Capcom forgot how to make games.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:19 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

so u saying r mika is really good?

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There's nothing worse for me than knowing exactly what the opponent is
going to do next, trying to counter it, and then still failing.  That's
what every match last night against R.Mika felt like.  Every time I knew
you were going to jump (especially out of the corner), I tried air-to-air.
But in Capcom's infinite wisdom, they decided to make the *hurt-boxes
bigger and have then appear fully extended before the hit-boxes on jumping
moves.* But obviously not all, because that would just be too
sensible.  So the other option is to dash into the corner (bad), or try to
block and hope the game doesn't decide to make you block both ways on
pseudo x-ups which are somehow worse in this game than SFIV,  In SFIV they
usually just happen in the corner.  In SFV they can happen on in any
position.

Here's what I mean:
Karin's jumping mk (hurtbox appears 1f before the hitbox, hurtbox is
bigger)
[image: Inline image 2]

R.Mika's jumping lk (hit and hurtbox appear at the same time; hit-box
is bigger):

[image: Inline image 1]

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:40 AM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

let me body you tonight.

ive watched some r mika tutoirals

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*Subject:* Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

I bought the game before I played it.  But like I said I'll play this
game because the online is good.

The game is not terrible.  It's just a very mediocre version of
previous titles.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:25 AM, richard moorcroft <
greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

Then why did you buy the game?? I am having fun,, but I wish they put
my favorite character in,, my only character
On Feb 23, 2016 10:17 AM, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

Not true.  Laura has a CC off her overhead.

This game is sometimes as frustrating to play as it's boring to
watch IMO.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:11 AM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

yip indeed, all CC's are normals.

ya CC's are usually slow, u use them as frame traps.

Mainly HK and HP moves have CC properties.
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Ah ok. Thanks.

Because i saw people punishing Ryu's dp with crush counter. But i
read that ryu's dp and some other character's move on block still
count as
active. Making it crush counter punish. Odd. But i get it now.

So moves with crush counter properties are similar to counter
hitting with other moves. But it just rewards you better.

So could you use crush counter as a wiff punisher for certain
normals? or the active frame is too short for it to "counter"

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:24 AM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

CC adds more properties to a CH. ie: more stun, opponent goes into
a floaty state if CC in air.

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*Subject:* Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

What's the difference between Crush Counter and Counter hit?

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:16 AM, Ryan Williams <
ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

Not bad for a kuk game :P
On 22 Feb 2016 22:14, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

Ono must be so proud

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SFV has broken the record for most entrants for any game at EVO.

https://twitter.com/evo2k/status/701810057256656897
<https://twitter.com/evo2k/status/701810057256656897>
Evo on Twitter
<https://twitter.com/evo2k/status/701810057256656897>
twitter.com
“In 4 days, SFV has broken the record for the most entrants at
Evo in a single game! This is going to be a crazy year! #Evo2016”

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:12 PM, richard moorcroft <
greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
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wrote:

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA,, you have no idea how much I laughed when
I was reading this,, CAPCOM doos koppe
On Feb 22, 2016 7:06 PM, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

Lol

http://techraptor.net/content/kekraptor-capcom-rewards-fans-fifth-street-fighter-v-beta

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx');>>
wrote:

It's like a bounty on someones head.

On 22 February 2016 at 18:45, richard moorcroft <
greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx');>

wrote:

What is this??? I don't understand
On Feb 22, 2016 6:17 PM, "Stephen Scheidel" <
gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx');>>
wrote:

So the Iranian media has re issued the fatwa on Salman
Rushdie to commemorate the first one from the eighties.
I don't want to live on this planet anymore 😤

On Monday, 22 February 2016, sameegh jardine <
sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sameegh@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

:P

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Did she put up a fight?

*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] * On Behalf Of *sameegh
jardine
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*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

was it love at first sight?

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:13 PM, richard moorcroft <
greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Interesting,, tell us more

On Feb 22, 2016 4:09 PM, "Ilitirit Sama" <
ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, it does pay to understand a bit about the footsie
game.  On the surface this game has a very diluted footsie
game compared to
past iterations but the concepts remain the same, and you
need to exploit
this shift the risk/reward into your favour with Ken.

At the most basic level, there are 3 parts of the footsie
game:  Aggressive poking (Rock), Defensive poking (Paper) and
Baiting/Punishing (Scissors).

I pointed this out at the session against GB.  It looks
like he's playing footsies, but all he's really doing is
using one aspect
(defensive poking).  In other words, if the opponent didn't
move forward,
GB's pokes would never hit.  This is because he is poking at
a range where
the move will only connect if the player walks forward.

This gives you 3 options to counter:
- Whiff punish (or V-Skill/Skill into throw/normal as the
move recovers)

- Press a higher strength button at the same time (st.hp
will cause a crush counter)

- Walk into that range then jump over the poke (not
recommended but will beat 90% of online players)

Against a competent player, this is where the depth comes
from.  They'll set you up by utilizing one aspect of the
footsie game then
suddenly change their rhythm.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cheers, I’ll check out the vid when I get home.

For the rest, just practice? Well, I can do that.

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Sama
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*Subject:* Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

Okay, with his TC1 – the b+mp, b+hp, it seems to be a

mission to confirm this puppy. I’ve been reading on SRK and
most of the
guys there who were fine with 3rd strike level confirms
are okay with it and the rest are getting screwed.

It's just practice.  You need to be able to confirm off
single hits in this game.  I don't like that it's such a big
part of high
level play but that's just how it is.

Anyways, what’s recommended, the st.LP rather than the

d.MP?

Do whatever you find is easier.  Chances are if you're
losing matches, it's not because of this combo.

Ken's neutral game at footsie range sucks.  You can play
him at a bit further away, but his strength comes from high
risk, high
reward maneuvers.  Like many other characters who don't have
strong
normals, Ken can't really control the flow.  So he has to
impose his will
by making hard reads and taking risks.  You'll find that you
will probably
have more success with dashing in and out of range and then
making them
guess between crush counter and throw.  He becomes much
scarier with
V-Trigger because he can use it as an FADC if you make a bad
read on an
unsafe normal or even DP.

I don't agree with everything in this vid (up close
virtually every character can do the dash in cr.mp ->
confirm), but it has interesting ideas about his neutral
game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GoJpWMNu6w

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Lol.

Okay, with his TC1 – the b+mp, b+hp, it seems to be a
mission to confirm this puppy. I’ve been reading on SRK and
most of the
guys there who were fine with 3rd strike level confirms
are okay with it and the rest are getting screwed.

After something like a cross-up, max damage is d+mp into
TC1, then HK tatsu (if the opponent wasn’t crouching. If
they were it
sometimes misses, so go for HP DP).

But what a lot of people (like Momochi) are doing is
st.LP into TC1 so that it’s easier to confirm the combo, and
you also have
the option for the grab instead.

Now, I get that at max range the d+MP into TC1 will whiff
anyways, so this is mainly after a really deep jump in or
cross up.
Anyways, what’s recommended, the st.LP rather than the d.MP?

Actually I have a boat load of Ken questions, but I
suppose most of those would be answered more easily if I got
off my ass and
went to a session. My main issue, since I’ve only really
played against
Paas is what the hell am I supposed to use for a neutral
game? At most
ranges Karen’s normal seem to stuff me. I’m fine on
anti-airing her. I’m
getting to terms with some of my punishment (even if I don’t
do it, I know
what it is supposed to be), but I have no idea how to play
against her
other than simply blocking and punishing her and letting her
control all
the flow of the game. That is actually enough for me to win
games, but it
seems like a really lousy way to play someone like Ken.

*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] * On Behalf Of *lindsey
kiviets
*Sent:* 22 February 2016 02:34 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

I main ken and every other character in sf4,  ask away
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Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 22 February 2016 12:30 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

Yeah, but is he on the mails?

I’ve got a couple of Ken questions.

*

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mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] * On Behalf Of *richard
moorcroft
*Sent:* 22 February 2016 02:25 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

Yes,, GB is

On Feb 22, 2016 2:23 PM, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Is anyone here playing Ken?

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moorcroft
*Sent:* 22 February 2016 02:14 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

I am done learning,, you will learn

On Feb 22, 2016 2:08 PM, "lindsey kiviets" <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rich u gona lern

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*Subject:* RE: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

I thought her d+MP was plus on block. Pressing a button
after it doesn’t seem like a good idea.

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cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] * On Behalf Of *richard
moorcroft
*Sent:* 22 February 2016 02:01 PM
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*Subject:* Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

Why block it??? Press button

On Feb 22, 2016 1:56 PM, "lindsey kiviets" <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

ya, rmika isn't the safest character.

one thing im not liking is the fact that I must block
crmp st mp from Karin. WTF,

slow ass blockstring. please capcom

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*Sent:* 22 February 2016 11:54 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

And both are punishable on block.

Mika is only scary in the corner.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:53 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

random butt splash works and ex butt splash covers ground

rmika is more like makoto tbh. her mid game is not good
but her corner combos hurt a ton.
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*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

I backdash to avoid it, although I suppose characters
with faster walkspeeds should have success just walking
back. I play Nash
exclusively at the moment so I haven't been able to test
this. Yes, neutral
jumping is a means of avoiding it as well, although this is
also nothing
new compared to previous SFs (people neutral jumping to
punish Bison's
scissor kicks at certain ranges, for example).

I use jabs from range to bait certain things. Recovers
fast enough for you to react to jump-ins, dashes or the
aforementioned
dropkick.

If her only neutral bypassing tool is charged HK and
there are ways around it, there's very little else that
she's going to use
to close the gap apart from dashing in or jumping.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Ilitirit Sama <
ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If you position yourself so that it never hits you have
to walk backwards all the time, or you have to neutral jump.
Punishing on
reaction is possible but you have to be looking for it and
can't be
actively poking defensively to stop her from getting in that
range.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Ryan Williams <
ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I played Mike's R. Mika and every time he used the drop
kick, I positioned myself so that he was never in range to
land it or I
could punish it. It's not as much of a threat if you know
how to deal with
it. Seems to be the case with most things in this game
anyway.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:47 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

and so?

she dun hav neutral...stuff.

besides she has to charge dat thing so its not like you
not seeing it coming.

Rmike Ross
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<ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 22 February 2016 10:18 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

*Subject:* Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

I don't know why you are complaining when you play
R.Mika.  She just ignores neutral with her charged drop-kick
and then it's
an instant 50-50.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:35 AM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

ugh sali is not right, he jump at me too much.

and then when he play nash he run away.

ima formulate a strat for him though.

Ive had good connections against:

    -    paas

    -    sali

    -    khan

    -    rich

    -    tazz

I cannot connect to SAP for some reason.

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