RE: hi

  • From: "Donaldson, Alasdair" <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 07:06:44 +0000

My build was going well. I can just use 1x generator and HoTA for normal 
enemies. For elites I pop Wrath (insanity), Ancients (with the run that makes 
them generate fury for me), Earthquake (rune for 4500weapon damage), then spam 
HoTA until all dead. Usually takes 4-5 seconds.
With Wrath, Earthquake is 9000 weapon damage and HoTA is hitting for 2m average.

Sometimes fights take a bit longer - like Belial. Use the Boon of Bul Kathos to 
reduce cooldowns and you'll get to pop everything again a second time before 
fight is over.

Killed the act 1,2 and 3 keywardens on torment 4. No key drops.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 05 March 2014 8:54 AM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: hi

you don't need to spam , just do bell every 2 seconds. that's enough time to 
generate sufficient spirit to do it again


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From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 06:38:46 +0000
Only works if you can spam bell. That won't happen.

Yeah, it seems that I can do torment 4, but it's a bit of a push. Torment 3 
seems like the happy place to be. With my current build, I don't die in torment 
2, so it's not worth playing that level anymore.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 05 March 2014 7:20 AM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi

had my anus handed to me last night. my monk cant do anything, dies so easily.

changed my build to survive rather than to kill. LOL it worked, got stun bell 
and life regen mantra. worked kinda well. stun bell , stuns for 4.5 seconds, 
wtf? was it like that in vanilla too?

Also the bell stuns everything even diablo. So monk can do wizard cm shanigans. 
I can foresee, high spirit gain+cyclone+ dodge mantra coupled with dodge = you 
stunning and never getting hit.

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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 02:23:03 +0200
Subject: Re: hi
From: sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VI_PgRHlcU
Seriously, why don't we have this at a session yet? This game looks really good.

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Grei Botes 
<sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
LB, why you no play Gief no mores?

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:38 PM, sameegh jardine 
<sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Let the fun times begin, he looks really good though.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:31 PM, lindsey kiviets 
<lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
green hand so spammable now its unbelievable. gg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTG4lAVl4QU

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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 20:33:07 +0200
Subject: Re: hi
From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

This Friday?
My consoles are your consoles bro.
Hit me up with details when you get them.
On 4 Mar 2014 20:03, "Ryan Williams" 
<ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
*lol* Gettin schooled by the prof... classic :P

Got the following message from Genshiken:

"Hi there Ryan,

Would you and CTS be interested in helping us host a gaming event on Friday at 
all, should you be available?"

Waiting for specifics.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Grei Botes 
<sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Lol, I told him but come on, the guy isn't really going to attend every 
weekend. Maybe he'll come to a CTS though.
He used my hori, I used pad.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Stephen Scheidel 
<gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Kevin is OP

On 4 March 2014 18:18, Ilitirit Sama 
<ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
What controller did he use.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:17 PM, sameegh jardine 
<sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Let him know about the sessions. He sounds legit.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Grei Botes 
<sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I was seriously shocked. He had feint cancels and everything.

Then again, he is asian, so it makes sense.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:07 PM, sameegh jardine 
<sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
That awkward moment when your professor schools you.





On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Grei Botes 
<sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Was playing AE with Skamanke today.This guy and his backdash button -_-
Anyway, got to my supervisor for another meeting and he saw my hori and was 
like "wow! You have a joystick?"
I'm like "yeah, just for some fun", obviously I wasn't just going to go all 
into it with my prof. He is like "Fun? You should play Mark of the Wolves or 
The Last Blade. Those are real games, made by SNK. No Capcom rubbish"
We played.

The guy has combos... His Kevin is broken -_-

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Wynand-Ben 
<paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Not sure

But it seems like it roughly.

Used to able to run MP7-8

Now Torment 2 seems to be the sweet spot me atm.


Game work differently tho so its hard to directly compare.
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From: lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:45:28 +0000

Is master lvl = mp3 , torment 1 =5?
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From: paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:06:47 +0000
Arcane Power on Crit
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From: numotd@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 15:00:17 +0200
Subject: Re: hi
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Apoc?

Yeah, i think it's fair that blizzard nerfed the whole perma-mindless spam 
build. It makes the game a bit boring. I like how the new patch introduced so 
many new different types of builds. At one point everyone is basically the same 
lolz but now you can have fun a bit.

To bad they fixed the WD more than 10 zombie dog bug. (The bug is that, zombie 
dogs that didn't spawn from the "Zombie Dog" skill itself doesn't count towards 
max zombie dogs allowed. So passive and other skills that gives zombie dogs 
when a monster dies stays...) saw a vid with 10 zombie dogs. looks fun :) I 
think they removed this bug because it cause performance issue...i mean just 
the 0 CD with 3 zombie dog build is already stifling performance of the game.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Wynand-Ben 
<paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Damage and build variety is waaaaay better from the looks of it.

Perma builds got nerfed ofcourse like everybody.  Perma freeze or Perma Archon 
etc. and Apoc in general
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From: numotd@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:43:47 +0200

Subject: Re: hi
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Poor WD lolz

didn't they nerf Wiz too?

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/2823159/

Problem is that with the new patch there are far too many people posting 
'builds' that are just their random choice of skills.

Dunno exactly how thing are going but Monk/Wiz > DH/Barb. Don't care how the WD 
is doing.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On 
Behalf Of Di Lhong
Sent: 04 March 2014 2:31 PM

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: hi


How's monk in 2.0.1? i'm still not feeling the class...maybe i just don't like 
their playstyle :/ What new builds do they have other than dashing strike, 
bells, cyclone?

DH looks very good in 2.0.1 now. Will main DH now :)

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:28 PM, lindsey kiviets 
<lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Il play monk to get paragon and keys. I want to play somethng difrent nw. 
Helfire rings r op in 2.0.

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From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:24:37 +0000

Also LB, don't be playing the Barb expecting to be OP or anything. A lot of the 
casual Barb players are migrating to Monk because he's so much stronger now 
than the Barb.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On 
Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 04 March 2014 2:22 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi

Sap is playing wizard. I had to resort to using follower coz i kept dying
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From: paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:20:09 +0000
Wizard!


Frozen orb is boss
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From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:14:37 +0000
Don't worry too much about them because you can always reset them.

Go with res-all before +% life.
Your movement speed (total, including equip) should be +25%. I get 12% from 
Inna Pants, 12% from Lacuni and 1% from paragon levels.
Go with attack speed.

Depending on your build, some other things change - like whether you want 
splash damage.

The Barb has been nerfed massively, especially in comparison to the Monk. Don't 
expect your Barb to be unkillable anymore. Also don't expect any perma-builds.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 04 March 2014 2:06 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi

Aah okay i see thanks.  I duno where to put my paragon levels, everythng luks 
gud.
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From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:00:29 +0000
Oh wait, are you talking about a WW Barb? I thought you meant the twirly Monk 
thing.

Viable WW builds now? Uh, not really there. Well, you can get them, but you 
need to be properly equipped.

Previously you used Battle Rage > Into the Fray so that crit hits generated 
fury. Then WoTB > Thrive on Chaos allowed you to add time to WoTB for fury 
generated.
As long as you had crit chance of around 40% unbuffed, your passives and skills 
could push this past 80%. That meant you'd never run out of fury as long as you 
hit enough people fast enough.

HoTA - crit chance higher if you've got full fury - meant that my crit chance 
was around 95% for HoTA.

For WW barb, you added the WW rune that lets you attack at your movement speed. 
Then you add Sprint with the Tornados. They proc'd enough to generate your 
non-stop fury. WW dealt the damage to kill. Throw in Rend to make you Immortal 
and you're good to go.

A proper working WW barb would set you back only around 50m.


TL:DR  - these builds no longer work - you can't generate fury from crit hits. 
L2P

Superstition is a great passive now for fury generation. Against elemental 
elites, you will never run out of fury. You can perma-HoTA them. As long as 
your fury spent to life is high enough, you can live doing this.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#ahdRSk!hYe!ZcYcZb<http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#ahdRSk%21hYe%21ZcYcZb>

That's the sort of thing you should go for if you want a WW build these days.

Also, the Barbarian is not a ballerina. Stop using WW.

Also, your BB is level 26 or some crap. Come back when you're max level and 
we'll talk again. There are no builds for low level Barbs. Get level reduced 
gear and shove gems in there.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 04 March 2014 1:44 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi

Ya fkn paye registration. U need to give me info on keeping up that spin dammit.
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From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 11:40:07 +0000
You physically go to SARS? You do know that you can do your tax online, right? 
Also your company should send the IRP5s straight to SARS to pre-populate the 
tax fields. Takes me about 5 minutes to do my tax every year.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 04 March 2014 1:38 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: hi

Why is sars so kuk full wtf? Im running outa mana quick when i spin. How did 
ppl keep up the spin for so long in vanilla d3?
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:12:59 +0200
Subject: Re: hi
From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> What would you say if Infiltration didn't change his tactic? That he is just 
> stupid? Or what if Sanford had changed his tactic and Infiltration didn't?
You're overcomplicating it and looking at it in the wrong way.  Remember, 
Infiltration was just reacting to Sanford Kelly.  He was just remembered the 
situation from before and progressively punished harder after getting hit by it 
once.  There wasn't a big tactical aspect behind it.  He just adapted to what 
Sanford was doing.  There's no luck involved either.  Given the number of 
options players have at that range, it's extremely hard to perform a counter on 
reaction.  You have to place that counter higher in your memory bank.  Remember 
how we played once and you hit me with a focus attack, and then afterwards I 
kept punishing it with an Ultra?  Same thing.  The difference is that the way 
Infiltration handled it there was no easy way for him to get baited into 
punishing incorrectly.  cr.mk<http://cr.mk> xx tatsu would work even if Sanford 
Kelly backdashed, so would cr.hk<http://cr.hk> xx demon.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Grei Botes 
<sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I suppose "I don't know".
Pah, I know it sounds silly but if I changed what I did every time I got hit by 
something, I'm not respecting the fact the guy probably has something else up 
his sleeve to "counter my counter".
I just use a "penalty shootout" mentality to deal with mixups. If I always go 
left as goalie, whether you know it or not, eventually you will shoot left, at 
least once, even if you KNOW shooting right seems to be the best option. Its 
called probability matching, and its generally inherent in any living organism.
Anyway, after the blocked shot, the general option by the shooter will be to 
switch back to the winning option... but that is when the goalie changes too! 
This usually shatters the morale of the shooter... or at least gives me a nice 
comfortable spot "inside his head", although I didn't do a single thing.

Its the same reason that I prefer to "air to air" a guy then use an anti-air, 
because that means I 'knew' you were going to jump and that is scary. DP could 
just be from reaction.

TL:DR, I try and get you used to be me being silly and then turn smart. It 
catches you unawares and you lose the match :-)
Doesn't work on guys who stick to their guns though.
So totally is luck, rather than adaption. What would you say if Infiltration 
didn't change his tactic? That he is just stupid? Or what if Sanford had 
changed his tactic and Infiltration didn't?
Anyway, there are probably arguments for and against what I'm saying, doesn't 
really matter.


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