Re: hello

From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 18:48:47 +0200

There's no "escape somehow" in Yu Yu. There are backdashes and regular
dashes. Backdashes are only invincible during the initial frames. They can
be punished. Some forward dashes have clash properties, i.e. you can dash
into an attack and perform a regular or special attack immediately after.

On 19 Sep 2016 18:35, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes

i was winning. he escaped somehow.

then i was like f dis why must i chase after you. then i looked at the
timer and there was none. i was gg'd ryt there.

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 04:11 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

Was there ever a situation where you felt you would have won if it weren't
for the absence of the timer?

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 6:04 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

my issue is with the timer and the plane switching.

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 02:45 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

LB you issue is not with the timer. If the timer was 100, 1000 or
infinite seconds it would make no difference.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Yu Yu is full of win, yes.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:21 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

gg sap

yuyu win

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 02:18 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

It's a restriction that affects the meta. That was my point. Whether it
pertains to plane-switching or character selection is irrelevant. That's
not what I was asking.

Check any tournament rules for KOF2k2UM and you should find that the
bosses are banned. It's a rule that the community agrees upon. The bosses
clearly affect the meta, otherwise they would not be banned.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:16 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx

wrote:

lol you can play the bosses nobody said you cant.

GG , your argument is invalid.

comparing planeswitchting to boss picking
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 02:12 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

I'll give you a very simple example, seeing as how this is something
that, according to you, doesn't happen. Ever.

KOF2k2UM. Are the bosses played in tournament or not? They're in the
game. They're unlocked from the start. They're playable.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:07 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

what other fighting games have we as players put on the game?

the only one i can remember is Tekken 5.0 where we put the life on
123% thats it.

I dont know wtf yuyu are talking about.

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 02:03 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

*LOL* As if restrictions haven't been placed on other fighting games
in the past when it was necessary. Gtfo with that logic. If something
isn't
ideally suited to the meta of a game, should it really be retained? I
mean,
if you've taken the time to test shit and to see if it's feasible or not
(which we have), should you really still include it by virtue of the fact
that it's there? By the way, plane-switching would work well in a Tag or
4-player format; it's just not suited to 1 v 1. But I've already said
that...

I've embraced it for the amazing game it is. Good games deserve to be
played. I haven't experienced anything in the game thus far for me to
label
it kuk. You want your baloney tech? It's in there. You want to play a
more
honest style? It's in there. I can also accept that not everyone is going
to have the same experience. That applies to most fighting games.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 3:52 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

no thats dumb,

Why put a restriction on a game. if you cant plane switch then wtf
is it doing there? then you not playing yuyu. Its in the game like it or
not.

you need to embrace it for the kugame it is.

no timer - gg

plane switching - gg

kugame - gg

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 01:50 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

Next time Manase and I play, I'll record the matches and show you
what the game's movement is supposed to look like.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx

wrote:

You only complained about the timer before. Now you're really
reaching *lol*

Plane-switching isn't ideal for 1 v 1. But I've already said that
and explained why it's not ideal. That was something I identified
early on
already. No plane switching? No problem. Plays like a conventional 2D
fighter with the two primary exceptions being that you use a button to
block and you aren't restricted to facing in a single direction when
moving
around. It's different, but it works.

Movement is GODLIKE in Yu Yu. It's a pity you never took the time
to explore it. Ah, I forgot; you only play Younger Toguro... the
slowest
character in the game. There are plenty of other characters in the game
with more innovative movement than I've seen in most current-gen
titles.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 3:41 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

no thanks

its a kugame

you cant eliminate glaring errors in the game.

plane switching is kuk, no timer is kuk, movement is kuk.

GG
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 01:38 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

It's not a problem for Manase either *lol* And then there were
two. I bet if more people played it, they also wouldn't have any
issues
with the lack of a timer.

I suspect that you were on the receiving end of the 'running away'
and it irked you to the point that you decided that the timer was to
blame.
Trust me, it's not. Yu Yu isn't about two characters being on
opposite ends
of the screen all the time. Save for a select few characters (Sensui
being
one of them as he's a zoner), the game just isn't played that way.
Eliminate the plane-switching and you've got a very nice, simple,
slightly
unconventional 2D fighter on your hands.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 3:22 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

just because it hasnt been a problem for you doesnt mean it isnt
a problem.

Slavery wasnt a problem untill the slaves rebelled and started to
play yu yu

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ryan Williams <
ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 01:20 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

That's all fine and well, hasn't been a problem for me yet so

GG

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 3:17 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

all fyting games have one thing in common and that is a timer.

if there is no timer then...

Theres no point in getting a life lead then chasing after the
opponent, hoping he will come in one day. thats kuk, kugame.

GG

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ryan Williams <
ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 01:13 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

No play game, disregard comment

GG

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 3:04 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

no timer

GG

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ryan Williams <
ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 01:00 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

If the game had a timer, the opponent would still have to
approach you if you had a life lead. He'd just feel more pressured
to do so
with the seconds winding down spelling his potentially inevitable
doom.

Alternatively, seeing as how it's such a big deal and wholly
incomprehensible to play a game of this nature competitively
without a
timer, you could just rage quit when your opponent has a sizable
life lead
because it's clearly a no-win scenario.

Weirdly enough, after all the matches I've played against
Manase thus far, never once has this been an issue *lol*

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 2:33 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

because if i have the life lead i dont need to go in.

then the dynamic changes where i no longer have to pursue my
opponent.

the game without a timer is not dynamic at all,for the mere
fact that there is no timer. GG

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ryan Williams <
ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 12:30 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

With a timer, you'd be able to do the same thing, so I'm not
exactly sure what your point is? Yu Yu is actually very dynamic,
especially
when you start using the clash system. Matches are very
fast-paced if the
game is played properly. As for plane-switching, it's not even
required in
1 v 1 (which is what Manase and I were discussing the relevance
of for meta
purposes) as you can backdash through everything. It functions
similarly to
a KOF roll.

Plane-switching kills momentum and neutral in 1 v 1; it would
probably be better suited to 4 player/tag team battles. Backdash
allows you
to punish moves with long recovery frames by just being at the
right range
with your back turned. Not that hard to do. You can't run forever
in Yu Yu
(unless you use plane-switching in 1 v 1 which, as I've already
mentioned,
does nothing for the game's neutral) as throws are kuk strong and
jumps are
floaty as fuck. If you have a good ground game in Yu Yu, that's
half the
battle won.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 2:17 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

okay that means its the worst game ever.

GG sap.

The game is not dynamic, because you can win and run away and
you can be low health and run away, a game may or may not last
forever, a
game can never end then, you can constantly plane switch, run
away, GG.
worst game ever.

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ryan Williams <
ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 12:14 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

*LOL* Why do you ask? Yeah, it doesn't have a timer. Only
Treasure knows the reason why.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 2:10 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

err sap,

is yuyu supposed to not have a timer?

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Nicholas
Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 19 September 2016 12:07 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

BAALOOON!

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

To make a prediction now I'd say Sap is saving LB for last
as the boss.
Remeber calling bosses mothers ?

On Monday, 19 September 2016, Stephen Scheidel <
gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Too smooth!

On Monday, 19 September 2016, Ryan Williams <
ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

*lol* I wonder how long this Harambe meme is going to
last :P

Here's the latest sprite guys. This is probably the
longest I've ever worked on a sprite, but it was worth it :)
If I had more
time (and patience), I would have focused on refining some
of the
animations, but I think it still turned out ok regardless.
I'll leave it up
to you guys to try and figure out who this is *lol*

[image: Inline image 1]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/ne
ws/g57df357dc05df/Play-as-Hara
mbe-in-this-Street-Fighter-knock-off/

*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *richard
moorcroft
*Sent:* 18 September 2016 09:07 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

This game is going to be bad,, new MGS sucks,, it's
kak,, anyways,, I hope Konami gets so poor from making this
game and no one
buys it,, I hope they close their doors FOREVER

On 18 Sep 2016 08:02, "lindsey kiviets" <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It doesnt look too bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCGq66FCVGU

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Di Lhong <
marongdin@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 17 September 2016 06:46 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: hello

Eh disgusting...

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Di shut up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaQ1KPveftc

On 17 September 2016 at 11:07, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn9idmUz4s8

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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Di Lhong <
marongdin@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 16 September 2016 07:27 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

*Subject:* Re: hello

Do you even Ramen? lolz

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