Yeap On 16 May 2014 20:22, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > *lol* > > Provided there is a sesh, will you bring all the PS2 goodies? :P > > > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir < > nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hopefully, if Lumi gives us the keys. >> :P >> On 16 May 2014 20:19, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Is there a session tomorrow? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir < >>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> ...and you still have Jeeva's keys right? >>>> On 16 May 2014 17:55, "sameegh jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sup guys, >>>>> >>>>> Work is killing me at the moment, looks like I'll be working tomorrow >>>>> and Sunday so I'm probably out for the session. >>>>> >>>>> Welcome back Stu, another country to add to your list. Hope the >>>>> experience was all good. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think we will have a better idea after we choose the format. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > That's precisely why I'm asking if everyone is ok with those dates. >>>>>> If >>>>>> > people feel that more than one day will be required to get through >>>>>> > everything, or that it needs to happen earlier, now's the time to >>>>>> say so. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Aren't we going need more time for the qualifiers? >>>>>> >> It's 4 games after all. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Ryan Williams < >>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>> >> > I also need to know if everyone is ok with the dates I've tabled: >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > 19 July - Qualifier >>>>>> >> > 26 July - Exhibition >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Gives everyone ample time to prepare and Salie will be back from >>>>>> Japan >>>>>> >> > before the 19th, so he'll also be able to participate. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> I think we should settle it as soon as possible so tomorrow is >>>>>> fine for >>>>>> >> >> me. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Williams < >>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >> >> wrote: >>>>>> >> >> > We haven't reached a decision on that yet. Perhaps we can >>>>>> decide on a >>>>>> >> >> > suitable format for the exhibition tomorrow? >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Ilitirit Sama < >>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >> >> > wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> How exactly will the exhibition work? Does each member >>>>>> compete >>>>>> >> >> >> against >>>>>> >> >> >> the rest in every game? >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, lindsey kiviets >>>>>> >> >> >> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >> >> >> wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> whats the fastest way to unlock o Joseph and Hol? >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> > Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 12:56:33 +0200 >>>>>> >> >> >>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes! >>>>>> >> >> >>> > From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > Some Jojo's action! >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfwndDsdsg >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > Dio Brando's jump cancel shenanigans are super effective! >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:43 PM, lindsey kiviets >>>>>> >> >> >>> > <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > I did an adjustment, I think its best team like this as >>>>>> stu has >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > much >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > more >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > kof background. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > tbh, I dunno why kof is even on the list. I request kof >>>>>> to be >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > changed >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > to DOA >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > ________________________________ >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 12:40:13 +0200 >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Subject: RE: USF4 changes! >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > What happened to Richard's name? >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > On 16 May 2014 12:29, "lindsey kiviets" < >>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > I have already adjusted my list >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > SAP >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Lumi >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Manase >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Stu >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Nick >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > ________________________________ >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 12:28:12 +0200 >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Subject: Re: USF4 changes! >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Someone should fill Stu in on CPT vs JHB. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Yeah, souflaki and stuff. All good. The Greek version is >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > tastier >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > than >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > the >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Cypriot one. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Lots of mezze meals. Apparently the wine there is >>>>>> pretty good. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > I’m >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > not >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > really in a position to judge that one. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Behalf Of Nicholas Robertson-Muir >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Sent: 16 May 2014 12:11 PM >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Subject: RE: USF4 changes! >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Lol. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > I was hoping for a more interesting answer, but I'll >>>>>> take what >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > I >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > get. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Welcome back bro. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > On 16 May 2014 12:06, "Donaldson, Alasdair" >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Uh, yes? I was in Cyprus. Pretty happy and cheerful >>>>>> place. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Behalf Of Nicholas Robertson-Muir >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Sent: 16 May 2014 12:03 PM >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Subject: RE: USF4 changes! >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > @Stu >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Find anything good to eat? >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > On 16 May 2014 12:01, "Donaldson, Alasdair" >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Thanks guys. Good to be back in country. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Behalf Of Ryan Williams >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Sent: 16 May 2014 11:59 AM >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Subject: Re: USF4 changes! >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > Welcome back bro :) >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > WB Stu. >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > ________________________________ >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > The information in this e-mail is confidential and may >>>>>> be >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > legally >>>>>> >> >> >>> > > privileged. 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