RE: USF4 changes!
- From: "Donaldson, Alasdair" <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:39:51 +0000
This is what I don't get - MK9 didn't have either of those. I had combos with
Scorpion where I needed to jump in after a spear. I couldn't backdash then jump
in, I had to jump back, then forward.
Backdashing and running isn't all that important in MK games. I presume they're
just doing this because they can't figure out what to do about zoners. I don't
see it as being a massive game breaker for most characters.
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From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Manase Zote
Sent: 12 June 2014 4:37 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
But not for a regular backdash and running...
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> You can use bar for teleport stuff in kof. Most of it is last dich
> when I use it.
>
> On 12 Jun 2014 16:28, "Donaldson, Alasdair"
> <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> Don't you need meter for some of the movement stuff in KOF? I mean
>> the rolls?
>> Who knows how this is going to work? I presume the backdashing will
>> be enough to clear the space and either give you the opportunity to
>> whiff punish or set up some zoning stuff.
>> This is MK... they've never had proper backdashes before. They're now
>> adding new movement and people are still complaining that this will
>> reduce their ability to play the game? How?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Manase Zote
>> Sent: 12 June 2014 4:22 PM
>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>
>> In other games we can backlash until the cows come home and there is
>> no meter for that and the game is still fair nothing broken about the
>> mechanic.
>> lol In street fighter if you backdash non stop you corner yourself
>> and that alone is bad so I still don't understand why you would need
>> meter in helping with your suicide(cornering yourself).
>> My suggestion is just balance the back dash so that it's not OP(like
>> in SF, KOF and other 2D fighters).
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > The "agility bar" backdash covers much more distance than that i think.
>> > Also, if we can just backdash nonstop and avoid normals and
>> > strings...rushdown/pressure characters will have problem, because
>> > they'll just backdash and avoid everything all the time.
>> >
>> > Unless they make backdashing more technical like Tekken. I think
>> > the agility bar is fair. It doesn't limit anything at all. It helps
>> > with tough situation.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> MK9 didn't have a bar for back dashing and it was just fine so
>> >> what was wrong with that?
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > The movement and pace of the game seems to be the same as mk9
>> >> > (which i think is ok but not the best). The agility bar enhances
>> >> > that a lot more for
>> >> > 1-2
>> >> > bars. So i don't mind it. It doesn't limit the movement of game
>> >> > at all.
>> >> > Eg.
>> >> > Tekken movement but you can do a "super" backdash for 1 agility
>> >> > bar (that fills up on it's own pretty nicely) to get out of
>> >> > Nina's df+1
>> >> > ss+1 pressure...or spend 2 agility bars to avoid nina's df+1
>> >> > ss+ss+1
>> >> > pressure by using stage interactables and jump away. Not sure if
>> >> > you're invincible or not during the jump...What was injustice like?
>> >> >
>> >> > So the basic movements is there. No limitation at all. Agility
>> >> > bar helps but doesn't defy the whole movement gameplay.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At this point no one knows how all of the above system
>> >> >> mechanics are going to turn out.
>> >> >> Limiting movement to a bar is a crime in any fighting game
>> >> >> because you need movement for everything you do in a fighting game.
>> >> >> It also affects the pacing of the overall match. So for me
>> >> >> limiting movement to a bar is a gimmick and will only give
>> >> >> players more problems rather than assisting them in a match.
>> >> >> I still don't see how styles can solve bad match ups, zoner
>> >> >> will always have an advantage from range, rushdown owns up-close...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> > There's an agility bar. New bar. Nothing to do with EX bar.
>> >> >> > It fills up pretty quickly. There's 2 bar. You use 1 to
>> >> >> > perform run or a backdash (spaces out quite a bit). I think
>> >> >> > this is fair. It fills up fast enough to use it every now and
>> >> >> > then. But not enough to just spam nonstop. You use
>> >> >> > 2 to
>> >> >> > use stage interactables. So it's not a stage interactablefest
>> >> >> > like Injustice. You have to decide if it'll be worth it to
>> >> >> > use interactables or to just dash up to continue pressure /
>> >> >> > dash away to keep zoning.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > As for variation. It's like saying Catwomen decides to do
>> >> >> > rushdown.
>> >> >> > And
>> >> >> > Grundy decides to do "zoning" with his zombie ground grab
>> >> >> > thingy (meaning he'll not have his armor chainthrows etc.)
>> >> >> > Catwomen will just run up to grundy with her claw slash and
>> >> >> > ignore most of Grundy's zoning. I'm hoping the character
>> >> >> > variation is NOT going to be rock/paper/scissors. Hope it
>> >> >> > helps you with really bad match up, but still at the end of
>> >> >> > the day...it's what you do. Because in MK9, i can just spam
>> >> >> > Kabal's instant air fireball like a noob and know some combos
>> >> >> > and it'll already be hard to win against kabal without having
>> >> >> > to learn his advance nomad dash cancels if you play someone who has
>> >> >> > trouble with zoning.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > so instead of choosing a variation and giving you instant win
>> >> >> > (because you only keep a few moveset between variations). i'm
>> >> >> > hoping variation helps with really bad match ups like 9-1 or
>> >> >> > 8-2 to something like 6-4 or 5-5 and what not. because
>> >> >> > fighting games should be about what you can do as a player.
>> >> >> > just because i know stupid spamming basic kabal shouldn't
>> >> >> > give me instant advantage over someone who's really good with
>> >> >> > sheeva, scorpion or sub zero (don't know which characters
>> >> >> > have issue with zoning in mk9...)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Manase Zote
>> >> >> > <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> SAP just told me that you need meter to run?
>> >> >> >> Isn't that supposed to be stone age mechanics(having a meter
>> >> >> >> for running)?
>> >> >> >> Who said running was broken?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> *Sigh*
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Back in MK3/UMK3/MK4 that meter also managed your combos so
>> >> >> >> no meter no chain combos no running around :(
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Wynand-Ben
>> >> >> >> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Im also not seeing how it can help bad matchups.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Picking a different version of the same character or a
>> >> >> >> > different character all together between matches would be
>> >> >> >> > just like it was now.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Counterpicking etc.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:11:20 +0200
>> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>> >> >> >> >> From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> How do you get around the rock/paper/scissors character
>> >> >> >> >> selection?
>> >> >> >> >> Player 1 picks his zoning scorpion while player 2 goes
>> >> >> >> >> for rush down version of scorpion, it will still be a bad
>> >> >> >> >> match up for one of the guys regardless.
>> >> >> >> >> Tools of the characters, match-up exp and lastly the
>> >> >> >> >> skill level and execution will be the deciding factor.
>> >> >> >> >> To me the understanding of a balance fighting is to make
>> >> >> >> >> every character the same...
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Di Lhong
>> >> >> >> >> <numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > Hmmm a good fighting game shouldn't be all about bad
>> >> >> >> >> > match up and lack of knowledge...it should still be fun
>> >> >> >> >> > and challenging in another level when your opponent
>> >> >> >> >> > knows what your character can do.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Yes there are bad match ups and character knowledge in
>> >> >> >> >> > fighting games.
>> >> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> >> > it shouldn't be in a state of "i know what you're
>> >> >> >> >> > doing, but i can't retaliate at all"
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Eg. Tekken. Capos. If my opponent knows how to deal
>> >> >> >> >> > with relax stance and such. I'll play in another mode
>> >> >> >> >> > :) There is no "instant" win in tekken.
>> >> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> >> > can play bears and still win against top tier character
>> >> >> >> >> > because you the player are just better. shouldn't be
>> >> >> >> >> > bringing a plastic ruler to a gun fight situation.
>> >> >> >> >> > should be more or less "experienced fighter with a
>> >> >> >> >> > slightly blunt knife" vs "an okay-ish fighter with a sharp
>> >> >> >> >> > knife".
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Manase Zote
>> >> >> >> >> > <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> This method of balancing looks like a throw of dice to me.
>> >> >> >> >> >> It can go either way, you potentially have a scenario
>> >> >> >> >> >> where you can lose a match based on lack of character
>> >> >> >> >> >> knowledge rather than skill.
>> >> >> >> >> >> If the game has like 30 characters for an example
>> >> >> >> >> >> multiply that by 3 so on average you need to be aware
>> >> >> >> >> >> of what all 90 variations are capable of?
>> >> >> >> >> >> Let's wait and see what the move list looks like and
>> >> >> >> >> >> how many moves will change between 3 variations of a
>> >> >> >> >> >> character.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Di Lhong
>> >> >> >> >> >> <numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > 11.59? XD
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Hopefully the character variation will be some
>> >> >> >> >> >> > answer to really bad match up. Not sure how they'll
>> >> >> >> >> >> > balance it tho. It'll be weird to just be a total
>> >> >> >> >> >> > counter to another characters variation completely.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > If that's the case, it'll be more rock paper
>> >> >> >> >> >> > scissors situation than a fighting game lolz
>> >> >> >> >> >> > hopefully the variations will make match ups like
>> >> >> >> >> >> > 9-1 to 6-4 or what not. So there'll still be
>> >> >> >> >> >> > unfavourable match ups but not a complete lose like
>> >> >> >> >> >> > MK9...eg. Kabal vs Sheeva...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Williams
>> >> >> >> >> >> > <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think 12:00 is a safer option Rich :)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Is 11:30 fine also?? I wanna get game time as much
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> as I can Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> your email find you!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> ________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Sender: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:15:48 +0200
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> To: <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> ReplyTo: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Heya peeps, we'll be starting the Sat sessions at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> 12pm to maximise game time.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Anyone who is keen on starting a little earlier
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> can join us at that time.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> If you aren't able to make 12pm, that's fine as well.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> I think she feeling a bit lazy today. She was
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> like "Can I speak to the main owner of the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> computer" and I was like "he's at work"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> she
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> was
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> like
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> "k thanx bye"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Nicholas
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> I love those.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Start talking linux, usually goes well.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "move to your start bar"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "don't have one"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "what version of Windows are you using"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "I'm not using Windows"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "Open up Internet Explorer"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "don't have that either"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "open your web browser"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "mkay"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "install this app"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "using my regular tar.z loader or the synaptic
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> package manage?"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "huh?"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> good times.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> lol, got a call from an Indian sounding lady
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> calling from "Windows Technical Department"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> How about no.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Ryan Williams
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> "Can I just buy a complete game please?"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Not going to happen in this day and age. Those
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> days are over.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Nicholas
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> LOL
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> I don't know which I hate more about fighting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> games.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> The
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> update
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> approach like Street Fighter, or the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> supposedly new game like Blazblue and Persona.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> It makes me not want to buy the games
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> anymore, because there will be an Update later.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Can I just buy a complete game please?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Persona now?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Blazblue now?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> I'm just ranting because I see there's a new
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> character coming out for P4A ...and I was
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> planning to get the new Blazblue (english
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> version)...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> In all honesty, the Capcom approach makes
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> more sense to me, as much as I dislike it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Wynand-Ben
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> A new dark age starting off with a new
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Guilty Gear I can definitely live with :D
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:59:23 +0200
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > I'm all for the next FG dark age.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > Wreal wrap.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > On 12/06/2014, Ilitirit Sama
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > > Mortal Kombat Honest Trailer:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCiVYKmC
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> > > veY
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