RE: USF4 changes!
- From: Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:11:37 +0000
Im fairly sure the dash has more rang than GL grab. Not sure how fast her
dash is but GL grab was very bad on block.
From: numotd@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:06:09 +0200
Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Can she? with what? her claw dash is too slow i think or too short..EX version
is the same as the normal one with extra dash afterwards...so she dashes the
same distance for the first part then dash again...which doesn't help...
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As much as Injustice was annoying with zoning it aint that bad. (Supes and
bladam was stupid early on till they got patched).
Catwoman can probably fullcombo GL after blocked ring grabs from anywhere on
screen?
From: numotd@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:45:18 +0200
Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Rushdown variation might have armor to deal with zoners? i think so far they're
doing pretty well so far...at least the direction they're going.
Injustice was pretty messed up...catwomen vs your GL or supes is BS. Once in a
blue moon i get up close with GL...he pushes me back to the edge of the
screen... -_-"
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just make walk speed fast. That stops slow gameplay since NRS can't figure out
balancing zoners properly.
From: Manase Zote [mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 03:25 PM South Africa Standard Time
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
SAP just told me that you need meter to run?
Isn't that supposed to be stone age mechanics(having a meter for running)?
Who said running was broken?
*Sigh*
Back in MK3/UMK3/MK4 that meter also managed your combos so no meter
no chain combos no running around :(
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Im also not seeing how it can help bad matchups.
>
> Picking a different version of the same character or a different character
> all together between matches would be just like it was now.
>
> Counterpicking etc.
>
>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:11:20 +0200
>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>> From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>
>> How do you get around the rock/paper/scissors character selection?
>> Player 1 picks his zoning scorpion while player 2 goes for rush down
>> version of scorpion, it will still be a bad match up for one of the
>> guys regardless.
>> Tools of the characters, match-up exp and lastly the skill level and
>> execution will be the deciding factor.
>> To me the understanding of a balance fighting is to make every
>> character the same...
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hmmm a good fighting game shouldn't be all about bad match up and lack
>> > of
>> > knowledge...it should still be fun and challenging in another level when
>> > your opponent knows what your character can do.
>> >
>> > Yes there are bad match ups and character knowledge in fighting games.
>> > but
>> > it shouldn't be in a state of "i know what you're doing, but i can't
>> > retaliate at all"
>> >
>> > Eg. Tekken. Capos. If my opponent knows how to deal with relax stance
>> > and
>> > such. I'll play in another mode :) There is no "instant" win in tekken.
>> > you
>> > can play bears and still win against top tier character because you the
>> > player are just better. shouldn't be bringing a plastic ruler to a gun
>> > fight
>> > situation. should be more or less "experienced fighter with a slightly
>> > blunt
>> > knife" vs "an okay-ish fighter with a sharp knife".
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This method of balancing looks like a throw of dice to me.
>> >> It can go either way, you potentially have a scenario where you can
>> >> lose a match based on lack of character knowledge rather than skill.
>> >> If the game has like 30 characters for an example multiply that by 3
>> >> so on average you need to be aware of what all 90 variations are
>> >> capable of?
>> >> Let's wait and see what the move list looks like and how many moves
>> >> will change between 3 variations of a character.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > 11.59? XD
>> >> >
>> >> > Hopefully the character variation will be some answer to really bad
>> >> > match
>> >> > up. Not sure how they'll balance it tho. It'll be weird to just be a
>> >> > total
>> >> > counter to another characters variation completely. If that's the
>> >> > case,
>> >> > it'll be more rock paper scissors situation than a fighting game lolz
>> >> > hopefully the variations will make match ups like 9-1 to 6-4 or what
>> >> > not. So
>> >> > there'll still be unfavourable match ups but not a complete lose like
>> >> > MK9...eg. Kabal vs Sheeva...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think 12:00 is a safer option Rich :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM, <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Is 11:30 fine also?? I wanna get game time as much as I can
>> >> >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>> >> >>> ________________________________
>> >> >>> From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> Sender: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:15:48 +0200
>> >> >>> To: <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> ReplyTo: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Heya peeps, we'll be starting the Sat sessions at 12pm to maximise
>> >> >>> game
>> >> >>> time.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Anyone who is keen on starting a little earlier can join us at that
>> >> >>> time.
>> >> >>> If you aren't able to make 12pm, that's fine as well.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>> >> >>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I think she feeling a bit lazy today. She was like "Can I speak to
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> main owner of the computer" and I was like "he's at work" and she
>> >> >>>> was
>> >> >>>> like
>> >> >>>> "k thanx bye"
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>> >> >>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I love those.
>> >> >>>>> Start talking linux, usually goes well.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> "move to your start bar"
>> >> >>>>> "don't have one"
>> >> >>>>> "what version of Windows are you using"
>> >> >>>>> "I'm not using Windows"
>> >> >>>>> "Open up Internet Explorer"
>> >> >>>>> "don't have that either"
>> >> >>>>> "open your web browser"
>> >> >>>>> "mkay"
>> >> >>>>> "install this app"
>> >> >>>>> "using my regular tar.z loader or the synaptic package manage?"
>> >> >>>>> "huh?"
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> good times.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>> >> >>>>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> lol, got a call from an Indian sounding lady calling from
>> >> >>>>>> "Windows
>> >> >>>>>> Technical Department"
>> >> >>>>>> How about no.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Ryan Williams
>> >> >>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> "Can I just buy a complete game please?"
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Not going to happen in this day and age. Those days are over.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>> >> >>>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> LOL
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> I don't know which I hate more about fighting games. The
>> >> >>>>>>>> update
>> >> >>>>>>>> approach like Street Fighter, or the supposedly new game like
>> >> >>>>>>>> Blazblue and
>> >> >>>>>>>> Persona.
>> >> >>>>>>>> It makes me not want to buy the games anymore, because there
>> >> >>>>>>>> will
>> >> >>>>>>>> be
>> >> >>>>>>>> an Update later.
>> >> >>>>>>>> Can I just buy a complete game please?
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Persona now?
>> >> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Blazblue now?
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> I'm just ranting because I see there's a new character coming
>> >> >>>>>>>> out
>> >> >>>>>>>> for P4A
>> >> >>>>>>>> ...and I was planning to get the new Blazblue (english
>> >> >>>>>>>> version)...
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> In all honesty, the Capcom approach makes more sense to me, as
>> >> >>>>>>>> much
>> >> >>>>>>>> as I dislike it.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Wynand-Ben
>> >> >>>>>>>> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> A new dark age starting off with a new Guilty Gear I can
>> >> >>>>>>>>> definitely
>> >> >>>>>>>>> live with :D
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:59:23 +0200
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > I'm all for the next FG dark age.
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > Wreal wrap.
>> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > On 12/06/2014, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > > Mortal Kombat Honest Trailer:
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCiVYKmCveY
>> >> >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>> >
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