Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

From: lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 07:50:27 +0000

the one that goes through the 5 elements and gives incr dmg

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Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 20 January 2016 07:40 AM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

Nah, that’s the thing, you don’t die. The generator build needs the unity. I
tried running a 67 without it and got my ass handed to me. With the Uliana’s
you spend so much time doing the 7-sided strike that you’re invulnerable to
attack. Once you land, thanks to the lps, you’re at full health. You can pop
the 7sided like a desert shroud – a quick life saver. I use it to avoid arcane
beams or frozen explosions.

The build works fine without unity, strangely enough.

Uh, covenant ring? Which one is that again?

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Sent: 20 January 2016 09:36 AM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

ya but you die so easily. unity is essential.

covenant ring is good? I dunno. its like you have to wait for that window when
ice pops up to get that dmg. not consistant.

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Subject: RE: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

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If you want a cheap Uliana’s, you can go for what I did – zero crit chance on
any gear. That makes it a lot easier to equip the char. Just focus on cd, lps
and cdr. Throw in the broken promises and you’re good to go. It’s not as good
as the proper builds, but mine could clear 60. Still think it’s more fun than
the generator builds. Also, you don’t run unity, so the build is geared nicely
for group play.

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Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 20 January 2016 09:30 AM
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Subject: Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

ya quinc mentioned ulians being a competitive spec.

ima try it. got an ancient lions claw

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Sent: 20 January 2016 07:15 AM
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Subject: RE: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

Meh…

Whoa, I saw that the guy on the bottom of the monk leaderboard hit 72 with
Uliana’s. Granted, he has a lot more paragons than I do, but still pretty cool.

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[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 20 January 2016 09:11 AM
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Subject: Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

that's why u do it with other peeps.

it goes super quick

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Sent: 20 January 2016 07:09 AM
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Subject: RE: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

Bounties are boring as well. Speed clearing them is the only way to get by. I
have loads of items I’d like to cube, but I just don’t want to spend the 30min
to do a full bountry run.

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[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 20 January 2016 09:07 AM
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Subject: Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

ye man come to the darkside

ppl are so imba they clear all bounties within 20 min

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Sent: 20 January 2016 06:51 AM
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Subject: RE: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

Yeah.

Man, playing seasonal on your own is super boring.

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[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 20 January 2016 08:50 AM
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Subject: Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

are the chances of rolling an ancient on a reroll still 10%?

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Sent: 20 January 2016 06:45 AM
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Subject: RE: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

WTF? Sounds like armour moves will be a lot like Tekken’s crush moves. They
always work… sometimes.

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[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Di Lhong
Sent: 19 January 2016 10:52 PM
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Subject: Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits

Also don't ever attempt to "armor" Paul's Deathfist. You will easily eat 50%
dmg for 10% dmg back lolz

Paul is so simple and strong...it's nuts. Highest comeback character of all
cast. No need for rage art. Deathfist Demo-Man ftw. Demo-man seems to do more
dmg too -_-

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:49 AM, Di Lhong
<marongdin@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marongdin@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Armor moves will take all strings and attempt to "counter" your opponent. So
yes...using armor moves will result in you eating full razors. To top it off,
if you do razors into low...the low will stop Armor moves. Since Armor moves
only counter high and mids.

Armor moves are not the same as MK or SF. It will never armor through you
opponent during a string or move. Only at the end. Unless there's a big gap
during moves like lei's uf3+4,4...it will absorb uf3+4 but interrupt the last 4
since it's too slow and not considered a true string.

During Armoring, you take CH dmg so that's 150% instead of 100%. A prime
example is Jin's 124 doing 40% or 13214 doing 50% of max hp. So Lei's Razor
Rush into low will be the same and launch since they're in CH state.

This is based of testing armor moves and strings in T7. Another example is
Steve's ducking 12121212121212121212121212. The person who armor eats all and
then hit steve back at the end of the string since it doesn't end with a low.
You also can't use armor moves during opponent's strings. So they can't block
razor f~1,2 then armor the next 1,2,3.

Armor moves and Rage art also have start up frame so it CAN be interrupted if
they don't have enough frames to "beat" your opponent. Example, if you jab your
opponent with 1,2 you're at +7. And if you do df+1 which is 13frames...you're
at 6frames...they can't activate armor moves in between 1,2 into df1. Since
Armor moves only have "absorbing" properties during mid and late of animation.
First few frames it's still interruptable (like 1-3).

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:09 PM, Wynand-Ben
<paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Hitting full razors seems unlikely...  unless the armor moves are very slow.
The full razors string takes quite a while.
I assume they will actually hit and interrupt Lei long before he manages to
finish the string.
Im just seeing somebody block 1 or 2 razors, waiting to see what Lei is going
to do and the seconds he sees any kind of delay he just armors through the
delayed stuff...

Also not sure how much damage the armore moves do...  not sure whats gonna be
the winning trade between Power Crush vs 1 to 3 hits of razors.

All speculation of course.  Since I havent played the game and Lei doesnt exist
yet.

If the razor transitions are good enough to avoid them it could be fine...
Otherwise if they let Lei block during razor transitions again like T5 then it
wouldnt be a problem tho :P

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:50:59 +0700

Subject: Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits
From: marongdin@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marongdin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Armor moves don't work the same as MKX or SF... you actually eat the whole
string CH dmg unless there's a gap...but you still eat all hits before gaps. So
Armor move Razor Rush = 50% of you hp gone.

Moves with gaps would be something like Paul's d+1,2. Also Armor moves aka
Power Crush. Don't armor Lows and Throws (also it has start up frames so you
can't just use it in the middle of being -9 on block). So if you did f~n
1,2,1,2,3...not only they will eat 4 hit in CH dmg. The last low will knock
them down too since it will count as CH -_-

Other than that, some of his stance transitions probably need a look at too.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Wynand-Ben
<paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

More like all his "tricks" will be useless due to armor moves.

Do anything in a stance?  Armor move
Delay razors?  Armor move
etc. etc.

He was already in bad position after most of his transitions, armor is just
going to make his options worse.

Will ofcourse vary since not all armor moves are the same...  but I see that as
a major problem.

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 17:28:51 +0700

Subject: Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits
From: marongdin@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marongdin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Lei's combo would fit in T7 but his other tools will not. He will do RIDICULOUS
among of damage if Razor Rush CH...

So i think they're fixing his movelist. Hopefully...

Just don't half ass and release old characters who are missing now like Jack
7...

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Wynand-Ben
<paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Lei

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 17:19:20 +0700
Subject: Re: SAFGC - 2016, the fall of the ilitirits
From: marongdin@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marongdin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Can't deny that FR visually looks amazing. I'm also pretty sure they're tuning
up move list of the missing character. Like Nina, Her movelist just won't work
in T7 combo scaling. Also everyone is getting a default costume update (about
time!).

Sidestepping is nerfed yes. But not to the ground. It's more tight. You can't
just randomly ss. But Side walk is still the same. BDC seems the same but the
new walking speed from SF makes A LOT of things wiff more often... RIP Dragunov
d+2 T_T

I'm sure they're busy cooking up something for FR release.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Ryan Williams
<ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

If it's only 50%, maybe they could focus on improving BDCing and sidestepping.

On 19 Jan 2016 07:27, "richard moorcroft"
<greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Harada says 50%???? Fucking madness,, what has his team been doing for a year??
And they wanna release TEKKEN FR in a month,, they better work through the
night then,  I hope they make the netcode like super good too,, like make it
the best in TEKKEN history,, or make it the best netcode a fighting game has
ever had

On Jan 19, 2016 12:54 AM, "Di Lhong"
<marongdin@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marongdin@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Those who hate Lucky Chloe...better not lose to her...hehe the troll level is
real with her.

Harada have stated the Tekken 7 that's released so far is a 50% beta version.
So not surprised by the mediocre graphics (they better have a solution to
random lags before thinking of upgrading graphics...nothing destroys your
fighting spirit when it lags during the most important part of the match
because of particle effect -_-) and lack of roster...But Akuma was a big
surprise...but guest character is pretty common in fighting games nowadays. If
it increases interests for new players or SF players to play Tekken 7. I say
why not. But just one guest character please...otherwise, might as well be TxSF.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:05 AM, Kei Ash
<neokash@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:neokash@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Did u guys see this https://youtu.be/MQVLTlyQTGk pre order tekken 7 if old

On Jan 18, 2016 7:51 PM, "richard moorcroft"
<greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Nice collection Nicholas,, I like

On Jan 18, 2016 7:42 PM, "Manase Zote"
<bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Lol

On 18 Jan 2016 19:27, "Nicholas Robertson-Muir"
<nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Let me see...
I have a pair of nunchucks, a boken, a replica sword, 2 throwing knives, and 2
regular switchblades that's my room.  Outside I have an aluminium staff.
But let's be honest here.  If I approach a burgler at night in the buff, I'm
sure my weapons will be the least of his worries.

On 18 Jan 2016 19:12, "Manase Zote"
<bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Will do, I got something already :)

On 18 Jan 2016 17:46, "richard moorcroft"
<greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Sleep with a weapon next to your bed dude

On Jan 18, 2016 4:44 PM, "Manase Zote"
<bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

That is why I feel lucky bro and I wish your friend a speedy recovery.

On 18 Jan 2016 16:19, "Nicholas Robertson-Muir"
<nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

That's why I wake-up-ultra.  Helps irl.

Sorry to hear about your situation bro.
It's not such a great day for peeps that I know.  My buddy's dad got mugged
while cycling this morning. They shoved a stick through his spokes while he was
doing 40kph downhill.
Then they took a half-brick and hit him on the head.  Hard enough to break his
helmet.
He's in hospital now with a fractured and cracked collerbone.  Dislocated
shoulder and a bleed on the brain.

On 18 Jan 2016 16:11, "Manase Zote"
<bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Unfortunately he got away.

On 18 Jan 2016 16:10, "richard moorcroft"
<greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Are you alright?? Did the bastard run away after you tried to hit him??

On Jan 18, 2016 4:06 PM, "Manase Zote"
<bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

I faced a burglar face to face this morning...
What makes it even more scary was the fact that that I hit the dude with a
walking stick(grand father's) aiming for the head and missed.
I did connect though but it wasn't a head shot.
The dude's retaliation was a ferocious 'your ma se poes' that shook me and I
retreated immediately(shocked) because all I had on me were shorts (half naked
and bare footed) and the walking stick lol.
What makes the day even more kak was the fact that the police did not even open
a docket because I needed to bring a list of stolen items from my little
sister's room after waiting for a good hour...

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