Cheers. Sounds like not too many are keen/able to actually stay through an
evening. So far only me and lb are a go.
Sent from my Windows Phone
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From: Nicholas Robertson-Muir<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 2016-03-16 20:36
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re:
@Stu
Trying to arrange the weekend with Jeeva, but he has his birthday then, and
wants to have a braai.
I'm just trying to see how we can fit in.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 6:28 PM, lindsey kiviets
<lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
sali just turned 20 when that movie was released
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Woop I see my work building.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Stephen Scheidel
<gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
heavy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKvfxHuhpd8
On 16 March 2016 at 15:17, lindsey kiviets
<lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
hmm that's why the netcode is so good, coz ive been lagging offline as well, so
I don't feel it when going online.
im in the matrix
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It's getting worse because they are taking online play into account.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Okay, so they do this to standardise the lag – lowest common denom for lag? And
it’s getting worse every year?
I hadn’t thought about the multiple platforms issue.
So for dedicated systems (like the arcade machines for SF4 or Tekken), they
still had the input lag set to whatever the standard was that they could
maintain with the system, it was just a good few frames lower than what we’d
experience once we got it on console/pc…
From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On
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Sent: 16 March 2016 02:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Re:
It's impossible to completely eradicate input lag. So in older games they had
a baseline of 4f, meaning that even if they could process input and deliver
output faster, they capped it at 4f so that the gamer didn't experience weird
timing issues. Now the reason the input lag never really increased much before
in the old days is because hardware was pretty much standard, and we all used
CRTs, which had no noticeable lag.
These days games are more complex so it becomes hard to deliver sub 4f
processing time, and you have multiple hardware configurations. So for example
in SFV you would have your baseline of 7f (which they can never maintain...) +
your controller lag (usually 1f to 2f) + your display lag (1f to 5f).
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a reason for this?
Doesn’t input lag just make the problem of screen lag worse?
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Basically all the older arcade titles had between 4 and 5f of inherent lag.
SFIV had about 5f.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Wynand-Ben
<paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Not sure what kinda input lag older SF games had but If I remeber correctly
Tekken as fixed imput lag of 6 or 7 frames.
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:41:05 +0000
Wait, what? 9frames of input lag for a block?
I guess I can stop blaming my controller for my losses and move onto blaming
the system.
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The whole SFV vs Input Lag story is blowing up at the moment, with Mike_Z of
Skullgirls popping up a lot.
Basically, a lot of moves in SFV seemed to have been designed with input lag in
mind, but not all of them.
So with 9f of input lag, it becomes impossible to block something like Ryu's
tatsu on reaction, which is actually quite ridiculous...
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