ye I think having a voice chat with gb then he can voice his concerns that we
might have missed, coz he's been quite active with the mssa thing.
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Sent: 09 April 2018 07:53 AM
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ah, ok, so you'll still see the messages
All good
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
It’s not a data issue, it’s a work phone issue. They have a bunch of stuff
blocked for security reasons.
My personal phone is an old Nokia. I don’t think I’ve switched it on in about a
year.
Am available on Discord to chat when I get home, but not so much during work
hours.
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Stu, please get some data on your phone and use Discord
If you like, I'll buy you some data
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:45 AM, lindsey kiviets
<lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
ive heard it happen once after GB told us about some random school in Bellville
having it. this by the by conversation during jeeva sessions.
ye breh, that Knysna thing never happened. we planned to get a bus an roadtrip
it down we looked at accommodations too, but like as time went on, we didn't
hear of anything solid other than the initial date and place.
nobody confirmed and so we didn't book, and then like 2 days before the event
we hear it was cancelled.
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Wait, the WC thing didn’t happen?
Out of interest, when did the last WC champs take place that any of you heard
about? I mean heard about before the date, not just some updated after it had
happened.
The tech is a problem. Laggy screens and broken controllers…
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morning peeps,
I think having stu on the board is already a plus.
that means things are moving ahead. first of all, we need a bigger presence in
WC.
2ndly, have more announcements and stick to the deadline, planning needs to be
better. We almost went to last years kuk in knysna which was cancelled like 2
days before the event. don't do stuff like that. plan properly, with having the
most participants in mind.
3rdly, no laggy kuk screens, everything needs to be updated, and rule kuk about
ft1 needs to be updated.
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Okay, so I’ve joined the e-sported board. There are 4 of us on it so far – 1
CS:GO player, a LOL player, me and Ryan (the guy from Vexxed). Our job is to
figure out what’s gone so badly wrong with MSSA over the past few years and
what we can do to fix it. I’ve got some ideas, but was wondering if anyone else
had any feedback.
Things that I’m thinking of:
1. The Swiss scoring system. It’s not intuitive and it’s not used by any
FG tournaments anywhere in the world. Think about double elim.
2. The Provincial champs – they’re a mess and Western Cape has missed out
a few times. Not sure how to fix this. Maybe online tournaments. Hold multiple
tourneys. If you’ve hit top 3 in a tournament, you can’t play in another one.
Top 3 players in each tournament get invited to Team Trials. Maybe have a
league (although this is a lot of effort and people are slack).
3. Refs – there are zero refs in MSSA who know about fighting games. Most
of the time when I’m at a tournament they ask me for input/help. That’s fine,
but as a player it shouldn’t happen. Maybe get other people to do the ref
course (it’s 1 day or something), then pay them to ref at any local MSSA event.
4. Fix the MSSA rules – a bunch of the stuff in there is insane, like the
clauses about not accidentally ripping on someone, and the fines that can be
imposed. The rules were written by a lawyer and it shows.
5. More involvement from the community at high school level. A load of
schools have e-sports teams, but in terms of fighting games, they have zero
idea what they’re doing. See about going to schools and fixing thing.
Those were the first ones that came off the top of my head. A lot of the flack
MSSA has taken in the past years is due to two things – firstly, making claims
that failed. The Western Cape is an example of this. The female players leagues
is another. The second issue has been Colin’s interaction with the SA
community. This has been a fail. The SAGamer thread is a good example.
So, regardless of anyone’s opinion on MSSA, the fact that you can get a free
trip to World’s and get to play some of the best people out there (like Book or
Jeondding), should be a massive draw. It’s not. People don’t bother to attend
tournaments. Half the Tekken players there are people who just arrived on the
day or high school kids who think that learning a 10-string is the way to win.
Firstly, does anyone here think that this is salvageable? Is there any hope for
getting the FGC in SA involved in e-sports? Is so, what is needed to change?
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